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04-26-2016, 01:01 PM
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(Dry Huunday)
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern North Carolina
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Originally Posted by rshirley10
Here in Texas we can get diesel about $.45/ liter ($1.68/gal. tax included). That still leaves a lot of profit to the producers since a barrel of oil is 42 gallons and is running around $45/barrel. That means the crude oil cost the producer a little over $1.00/ gal ($0.28/ liter Canadian). Your price reflects a 200% cost in taxes, refining, transportation and profit. I don't think the producers are losing money but I am glade to see the prices coming down.
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Yea the corporate level bigwigs and share holders are always gonna make money. Even if it means that they have to lay-off and/or cut hours of the folks "on the ground" Its a roller coaster career for those folks without a doubt.
Trust me I love cheap fuel but when it affects family members lively hood then it becomes a double edge sword.
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04-26-2016, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Western AZ
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Originally Posted by aceinspp
Better stay in Canada cross the line and prices swap Later RJD
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Diesel in Socal has been cheaper than gas for almost a year.
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04-26-2016, 01:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,748
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What worries me is gov'ts see the lower fuel prices, and will want to tax it more when we're currently fat and happy. It is all of jobs to mind the store, otherwise we turn even more socialistic than Canada. This should be a good travel camping season due to lower fuel prices. Happy travels. I love the guy who drives 7 miles to beat his home government out of the crazy tax structure in his area of Canada, kudos.
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04-26-2016, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Oregon
Posts: 716
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In the mid-2000's, I was shopping for a truck and considering a diesel. At that point, history told us that in the summer months diesel would normally be cheaper than gasoline. Since I was buying the truck to be used mostly for summer vacations with an RV, I used that pricing history to help justify the (then) $5000 premium for a diesel engine. Needless to say, I got that shaft on that one. From seemingly the very day I bought my truck, diesel never again dropped below gas....until now!
Diesel Fuel and Gasoline Costs
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04-26-2016, 02:35 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cape Cod
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It is a huge regional thing. Here on Cape Cod diesel is $2.19 a gallon, regular unleaded is $2.13 a gallon.
Las year a friend and I took a 9k mile trip across the country. He has a diesel, I have gas. Heading west, somewhere about the Mississippi River, prices flipped. Diesel became cheap and gas was more expensive.
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04-26-2016, 03:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 3,963
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Originally Posted by GreenImp
In the mid-2000's, I was shopping for a truck and considering a diesel. At that point, history told us that in the summer months diesel would normally be cheaper than gasoline. Since I was buying the truck to be used mostly for summer vacations with an RV, I used that pricing history to help justify the (then) $5000 premium for a diesel engine. Needless to say, I got that shaft on that one. From seemingly the very day I bought my truck, diesel never again dropped below gas....until now!
Diesel Fuel and Gasoline Costs
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If you were trading that diesel today you would get more than a $5k premium if in decent condition. Diesel option on my 2016 F250 was $8440.
Gas here $1.87 Diesel $1.95.
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04-26-2016, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
Posts: 6,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
If you were trading that diesel today you would get more than a $5k premium if in decent condition. Diesel option on my 2016 F250 was $8440.
Gas here $1.87 Diesel $1.95.
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Hmmm. I've heard this a lot. It may be true, I may be misinterpreting.
BUT..........
The diesel 'option' for the Duramax was around $8K, yes. I don't remember exactly. BUT, it's not fair (IMHO) to state that as the gross additional initial cost of a diesel engine............because, the V8 gas engine is also an additional cost, or most of them are. The base is either a 6 cyl or the small V8 (not sure, but one of them), so getting a 'normal' V8 also costs something extra.
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04-26-2016, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Green Bay, WI
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Here in Green Bay Diesel is $2.19 with Reg UnLead Gas at $2.15 too.
Either way, barley put a dent in the tank with a whole 28 mile round trip last weekend.
Off to the Chicago area next weekend. I'm sure their prices are high.
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04-26-2016, 04:58 PM
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RetiredRVer
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 264
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One can buy a lot of gasoline for the $8,000 premium price to have ones truck equipped with a diesel....even if ones diesel makes 30% better fuel mileage. Okay, here comes the rant about pulling power!!!
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04-26-2016, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 3,963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by checkmate99
One can buy a lot of gasoline for the $8,000 premium price to have ones truck equipped with a diesel....even if ones diesel makes 30% better fuel mileage. Okay, here comes the rant about pulling power!!!
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No need to rant about pulling power. That option rarely depreciates! $8440 on my 16 F250 and will probably be more on the '18 Ford I buy, but only going diesel.
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04-26-2016, 05:56 PM
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Senior Gold Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 213
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Diesel vs Gas
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Originally Posted by B and B
I payed $2.52 US/ US Gallon for Diesel.
Gas was $3.09 USD/ US Gallon
I say Diesel Trucks Rule!!
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If you drive a sports car or add some Premium to the Ecoboost that is $3.69 USD/ US Gallon
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Diesel fuel production competes with home heating and jet fuel and therefore tends to be more expensive in the winter when hone heating fuel is in demands. Diesel fuel is normally cheaper than gas most of the year in Canada but this is not always the case in the US.
Canadian fuel is almost always more expensive than US purchased fuel even if it's produced in Canada. This is mainly because of road and sales taxes applied at the pumps to provide free health care and cheaper education and road construction and maintenance. The Canadian dollar is normally less than the US dollar which helps to equalize the cost for Americans travelling to Canada.
Running trucks on Diesel fuel in the US and Canada generally works out to be about 20% cheaper particularly when pulling trailers and climbing hills. Diesel engines cost $5000 to $10,000 more than gas engines. It works out to be almost a wash cost wise except diesels require less maintenance and last forever. It's is great to have the diesel tork when climbing hills and the additional safety factor of being able to pour on the fuel and get yourself out of traffic situations saving your life and those of the fool trying to pass you unsafely.
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04-26-2016, 06:05 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Kickin
Why is your fuel costs still sky high compared to the US. Are your taxes that punishing. It doesn't make sense, your oil reserves are huge. What gives?
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Even higher here on the East coast...lots of oil in Western Canada but here in the East it comes on tankers from Venezuela
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