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Old 02-06-2015, 07:21 PM   #21
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I think the need for a HDT to tow and the ability to have a bed/box for commuting is actually answered in a F-450.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:52 PM   #22
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I think the need for a HDT to tow and the ability to have a bed/box for commuting is actually answered in a F-450.
The F450 has no more capacity or tow rating than the Ram 3500. If it does it's by very little. I don't understand the need for anything bigger for a 5er than a new 3500/350.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:39 PM   #23
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How about a good body shop and a salvaged box or two. Seems like someone could make you what you want.
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How about a good body shop and a salvaged box or two. Seems like someone could make you what you want.
Ding ding ding! That's how I would go.
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Will not work. CA are different. Pick up is 56" cab-chassis is 60"


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Old 02-07-2015, 09:26 AM   #26
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Transamz, As they say the devil is in the details. I'm not sure what your saying? Does Ram trucks 3500 vs 4500, have a bigger tow difference than that of the F-350 vs F-450? Rear axel ratios will always dictate different GVWR per class. I thought this thread was about the need for a box/bed?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:44 AM   #27
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thank you for all the input, I have been looking all over the place, (hate to start the ole who makes a better rig) but we currently have a silverado 3500 and it is just not enough truck (by the numbers ) to tow what we are looking at and deff. does not have the cargo capacity. we were looking at the RAM 5500 but do not need to spend the extra to be able to carry 3,000 more, 7,000 will be just right for what we are looking to do with it (tounge weight , reserve fuel tank, and 4 - 100 lb kayaks on the roof + people and the extras i always have in the tool box in the bed of the truck) Would love to stay with chevy but we have the biggest one they make. stopped in to 3 certified Ford dealers (1-in NY and 2- in FLA) they all said the same thing for what we are looking to do stay away from Ford for now give them a couple years , having major issues with the newer trucks and the DEF fluid , something to do with the head gaskets on the truck, major repair with extended down time) I have to believe what they were telling me given they lost money when i walked out the door. The truck we currently have is rated to tow 22,500 lbs the trailer we are looking at is 15,000 with a 9,000 cargo capacity, so loaded up it is 24,000 lbs (it is a try axle 44' toy hauler/ race car trailer) so when towing i always go by the rule of "under buy in the trailer or over buy on the truck" , given we are looking at going full time i can not stay with the smaller trailer, so back to looking for the truck.
when I talked to my insurance company they said as long as i stay under 10,000 GVW for the truck i do not have to go chommerical with the reg/ license etc. so the RAM 4500 with a regular truck bed on it will be just under that mark.
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:25 AM   #28
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Fast murray beat me to it. 2 junk yard beds and a good body shop to make just what you need. Or go f450 and get the bed and 4 wheel drive standard.
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The 2 bed ideal would work. Sure would be a one of a kind. You would sure have people wanting to know where to get one.


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thank you for all the input, I have been looking all over the place, (hate to start the ole who makes a better rig) but we currently have a silverado 3500 and it is just not enough truck (by the numbers ) to tow what we are looking at and deff. does not have the cargo capacity. we were looking at the RAM 5500 but do not need to spend the extra to be able to carry 3,000 more, 7,000 will be just right for what we are looking to do with it (tounge weight , reserve fuel tank, and 4 - 100 lb kayaks on the roof + people and the extras i always have in the tool box in the bed of the truck) Would love to stay with chevy but we have the biggest one they make. stopped in to 3 certified Ford dealers (1-in NY and 2- in FLA) they all said the same thing for what we are looking to do stay away from Ford for now give them a couple years , having major issues with the newer trucks and the DEF fluid , something to do with the head gaskets on the truck, major repair with extended down time) I have to believe what they were telling me given they lost money when i walked out the door. The truck we currently have is rated to tow 22,500 lbs the trailer we are looking at is 15,000 with a 9,000 cargo capacity, so loaded up it is 24,000 lbs (it is a try axle 44' toy hauler/ race car trailer) so when towing i always go by the rule of "under buy in the trailer or over buy on the truck" , given we are looking at going full time i can not stay with the smaller trailer, so back to looking for the truck.
when I talked to my insurance company they said as long as i stay under 10,000 GVW for the truck i do not have to go chommerical with the reg/ license etc. so the RAM 4500 with a regular truck bed on it will be just under that mark.
The Ram 4500 has a GVWR of 15,000-16,500# and that is what they go by not what the truck weighs empty.

If you load the trailer to the max of 24,000# then a Ram 3500 pick-up properly equipped will be more than enough truck.

You can do what you want but if you want a regular pick-up bed then you will need to go with the 3500 or spend a lot to get a bed made to fit. Get the 4500 and have less hp , less torque, have to fit with a bed of some sort and subtract that bed weight from the posted payload number and towing number (if you go by those numbers). The 4500 CC will also ride very rough when running around empty.
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