Originally Posted by woodpidgeon
I am looking to buy a Ram 2500 - 2006 Laramie. The only payload figures I can find put the weight at 1430#. This is about 800# less than other models including gas so I am hoping it is wrong. Can anyone who owns a similar model tell me if the info above is right - or where to look to find it. I want to tow a Rockwood 8285WS, GVWR 8400# with a pin Wt of ~1344#. Any help much appreciated.
Accoring to a 2012 user guide (the manual is on disc)
All expressed in pounds -
2500 hemi, Powerwagon payload: 1780; towing 10,100
all other Hemi 2500s: payload 3120; towing 12,300
2500 6.7L manual, payload 2490; towing 13,500
3500 6.7L manual, payload 5050; towing 14,050
2500 6.7 Auto, payload 2580; towing 15,450
3500 6.7L Auto, payload 5130; towing 22,700
Highest rated 1500 payload is ST 2WD, 3.7L auto @ 1860 (towing 3750)
Highest rated 1500 towing is SLT/Outdrs/Sport @ 10,450 (payload 1670)
Bumper is rated at 5000 towing
as mentioned by others, the payload ratings are with a 150# driver and a full tank of fuel. Everything you add to it, reduces payload.
Based on a 2500 diesel auto, GAWR front 5000; GAWR rear 6000; GVWR 9000; GCWR 22,000; delivery weight on truck 6753: I am under the impression a 2500 is available in one with a 10,000 GVWR, but don't hold me to this.
Note: the loads should 80 to 85% below absolute limit(s) for safety IMHO.
A big TT pushes the GCVR over first and a 5er pushes the GVWR over first.
I 'built' a simple Excel tool (wanted to see if I still could) to calculate maximums based on assumed values! So, don't be too hard on me.
I figure loading of the truck like this: driver 220, passenger 150, 100 in the backseat (cooler, tools, whatever) 100 WDH hitch and anti-sway (TT): a TT with 10% on the tongue exceeds GCVW with a 14,650 trailer. I would say the maximum TT is 12,000, this could also depend on hitch, ball and even safety chains. 15% on the tongue really doesn't reduce the trailer you could (hypothetically) tow.
Using the same loading, except figuring a 5er hitch is 150, a 5er with 15% on the pin (probably lighter than most are) a 11,400 trailer causes the GVWR to be above its 9000# rating. 'Essentially the pin weight can not be more than 1717#. I would say, a 10,000 5er would be about it (@15%). If the 5er has slides over the pin, 25% is more like it, so at 25% on the pin, the 5er can only be 8950. So, something like 8000 to 8500 would be "it" for a 5er, in this hypothetical rig on my spreadsheet.
You must know the actual, going down the road, pin weight for the 5er, but as far as being safe is concerned, anything above about 1717, again, drive the GVWR over the limit. Never exceed the limit of any component and know your actual weights and ratings.