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Old 06-11-2014, 11:30 AM   #21
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I would be careful on this because it sounds like an out for the insurance company if you were ever in an accident. Not saying they would, but you never know. Some might view an incorrectly registered vehicle combo as one that isn't registered at all. Beware the corporate greedmongers.
I think that is my biggest concern. In an accident, no matter how minor, being over your weight limit is an invitation for a law suit from the other driver(s). They will contend "If you had been within your legal weight this accident would never have happened so you are responsible for my pain and suffering". And, yes, the insurance could quite possibly throw you under the bus!!
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:43 AM   #22
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Missouri (and possibly other states) are the same way for vehicle licenses. The TV must have a plate rated to exceed the combined weight of truck and trailer (Missouri RV trailers plates do not have "weight ratings; one size fits all.) So, on my truck, I have to have an 18,000 # weight-rated plate to cover the weight of both the truck and trailer. You would be surprised at how many 3/4 ton trucks I see pulling 5ers, with the truck plated at 12,000 #. A 12,00# plate works fine on the truck alone, but when you hook the 5er to it, the combined weight (both actual and sticker) is going to exceed the weight rating on the TV's plate.

A two-year 12,000 # plate is about the same cost as a one year 18,000# plate, and the 18,000# plate has to be renewed every year.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:55 PM   #23
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OK, lets see...possibly the biggest hassle is finding someone at PennDot who actually has a clue. When you say Class A license they immediately reply with something like "oh, you mean a CDL". Once you get past that there seems to be no study guide so they tell you to use the CDL guide. Then there's the problem of finding someone with a Class A to go with me, since I can't legally drive my rig on a learners permit, to the testing location, the nearest one being 50 miles away. That's about the extent of my personal knowledge but I refer you to this link for a real horror story:

Pennsylvania DOT Requirements For Non-Commercial Class "B" Driver's License For Motorhomes Over 26,000 pounds - Laws and legislative action - FMCA Motorhome Forums

Now don't get me wrong, I like my Silverback but it is more camper then we really need. The one we're looking at is a foot shorter and 1800 pounds lighter with virtually the same features as the Silverback. We have found the length to be an issue a couple times with the kind of places we go as loosing a foot might be a good thing and lighter is always a good thing!
OMG!

What a nightmare. I can see why you are concerned!
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:16 PM   #24
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your fine, your not using your rig for commercial use. When someone can go buy a motor coach with air brakes and don't need an air brake endorsement, then no special endorsements are needed (as of yet) for towing a TT, 5'er, etc. I know someone that owns a KW that he uses to tow his 5'er with and due to its private use, all he had to do was put 'not for hire' on the side of it and he's fine. He replaced the factory 5th wheel plate with a smaller one for his 5'er.

(note: at the end of the day, it comes down to your state)
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:36 PM   #25
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So, how many of you guys can pass a DOT Physical? If you get/have to have a Class A non-commercial license, it would seem that you should also be forced to get physical as the commercial drivers have to.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:37 PM   #26
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So, how many of you guys can pass a DOT Physical? If you get/have to have a Class A non-commercial license, it would seem that you should also be forced to get physical as the commercial drivers have to.
Maryland doesn't require that for their non-commercial licenses.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:49 PM   #27
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Maryland doesn't require that for their non-commercial licenses.

I was reading that on some state licensing sites. A non-commercial licenses basically states that you are not getting paid. So.... why the several different classes of non-commercial licenses? Just to say that you can drive a bigger, longer, heavier truck/unit?

Not getting into an argument, just talking out loud.


ependydad.... in your picture it looks as if you have Micky ears on? If you do, you are a very good father to be one of the gang. If you don't this was not meant to be a slight, just looks that way.
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I was reading that on some state licensing sites. A non-commercial licenses basically states that you are not getting paid. So.... why the several different classes of non-commercial licenses? Just to say that you can drive a bigger, longer, heavier truck/unit?
For Maryland (and I really can't speak to others), there is a special written test and driving test that goes along with the class A non-commercial license. So, I do think you're exactly right in that it's to prove some proficiency with larger vehicles.

For Maryland, for motorhomes with air brakes (and are over 26,001 GVWR), owners/drivers are tested on proficiency with them as well.

Here is Maryland's guide for the testing:
http://www.mva.maryland.gov/_resourc...trip-Guide.pdf


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ependydad.... in your picture it looks as if you have Micky ears on? If you do, you are a very good father to be one of the gang. If you don't this was not meant to be a slight, just looks that way.
Yep, crappy cheap knock-off ears and thanks for the kind words. My son just turned 2 and we had a Mickey Mouse themed party. We had Mickey everything in the house. Wearing the goofy ears is easy- letting my (now 10 year old, then 6 or 7 year old) daughter and her friend do my hair, nails and make up -- that was something.
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Perhaps this link can be helpful.

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I just took and passed my NYS driving test for my 'R' endorsement. The test was easy and not a big hassle at all. If you have any doubt that you should make the effort to be legal, then just turn on your TV and see how many attorneys are out there soliciting lawsuits. If you've ever had to appear in a courtroom you know that attorneys will twist things into a way that will cost you mucho $$$$. Be safe.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:55 PM   #30
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I was reading that on some state licensing sites. A non-commercial licenses basically states that you are not getting paid. So.... why the several different classes of non-commercial licenses? Just to say that you can drive a bigger, longer, heavier truck/unit?

Not getting into an argument, just talking out loud.

It's all about the money. They can charge more for higher class registrations and licenses. Many years ago (like maybe 40 years) PA had just one license and you could drive whatever you had. When they went to the current system you could be grandfathered at whatever class you felt you needed. Being young and dumb, I did nothing and got a class C by default. It I'd have known then what I know now....
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