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Old 06-11-2014, 05:43 PM   #31
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It's all about the money. They can charge more for higher class registrations and licenses. Many years ago (like maybe 40 years) PA had just one license and you could drive whatever you had. When they went to the current system you could be grandfathered at whatever class you felt you needed. Being young and dumb, I did nothing and got a class C by default. It I'd have known then what I know now....

Maybe so, but I actually like that Maryland has their requirement because it requires additional testing and showing competence/proficiency in handling large vehicles. I just wish they made it easier/more realistic to take (the permit/requiring a driver at or above that class level is a fairly insurmountable challenge for me).
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:49 PM   #32
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Drivers license oops!

I just checked Ontario. In 2011 they changed the maximum combined TV and Fifth Wheel only to 24,250 lbs. this applies to a general class G Licence, lowest class. With my D licence I can drive anything with max towed of 10,000lbs which is any motorhome. for combined over 24,250 you need to take a road test in your own truck and trailer for a special A R class. There is no driver training for this. Air Brakes on A or G or D is a Z endorsement that can be 12 hr college course or written and practical test.

This means many of the US driver classes with 26,000 lbs can not legally tow in Ontario. I say who is going to stop you.

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Old 06-11-2014, 09:34 PM   #33
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Maybe so, but I actually like that Maryland has their requirement because it requires additional testing and showing competence/proficiency in handling large vehicles. I just wish they made it easier/more realistic to take (the permit/requiring a driver at or above that class level is a fairly insurmountable challenge for me).
Find a local delivery driver like a Pepsi or beer truck at a store making a delivery and offer them $50 or so for a half day and they will probably hook you up. Call your local towing company.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:37 PM   #34
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I checked Ky's license class and it's 26k limit before requiring a Class C CDL. The statue just states "weight". If using GVW of my fiver and TV I'm #24,100 combined. Thanks for the useful info.
Could you link me to this info? The state of ky has no such licencing requirement.

There is no special Drivers licence for RV's no matter the weight.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:12 PM   #35
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CDL Classes for Every State

The Act established separate classes of commercial driver's licenses. Every state issues licenses in these categories:

Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GWVR) of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.Class B: Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.: Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous

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OTE=transamz9;633149]Could you link me to this info? The state of ky has no such licencing requirement.

There is no special Drivers licence for RV's no matter the weight.[/QUOTE]

I picked up the info from Ky DMV. It is actually a federal quideline applied to all states and I should have corrected to CDL class A. However, I have also read, from numerous sources, it does not apply to personal use vehicles, including RV's. Only applies when operating as a business.
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:21 AM   #36
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This means many of the US driver classes with 26,000 lbs can not legally tow in Ontario. I say who is going to stop you.

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Interesting. I have tried to find any specific information on licensing reciprocity between the US and Canada and specifically Ontario, no luck.

Hard to believe Ontario would pass up all those tourist bucks and that RVers would need to go back into the States to go from Quebec to Manitoba.
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the CDL's do not apply to personal vehicles. Also, before everyone starts jumping to DMV and getting a CDL, keep in mind, if you do, you have to put DOT numbers on your TV, you will have to fill out log books, YOU WILL have to follow ALL DOT Rules, even when not towing your TT.

The rules do not apply to personal vehicles. Unless your hauling campers for someone over the country and getting paid, then you need a CDL for that, otherwise you don't.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:59 AM   #38
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Drivers in Texas can operate up to 25,999 lbs. of towing vehicle without a special license, but once your setup exceeds or equals 26,000 lbs., you'll need a class-B noncommercial driver's license.
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Interesting topic - When friends bought their Cardinal the dealer insisted on seeing proof of correct licence type before letting them pull off the lot - I do believe they may have some liability here if they let you drive off improperly licensed.
Some links that may be of interest:
Reciprocal Agreements: Between Canadian Provinces/Territories and U.S. States
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http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pub...uestions.shtml
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http://cvsa.org/members/documents/20...ised-01-13.pdf
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Trailer Towing | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws & Compare Laws | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws
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This one is commercial but may translate to some classes of drivers licence:
Reciprocity and Recognition of United States and Canadian Commercial Drivers Licenses | Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:00 AM   #40
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the CDL's do not apply to personal vehicles. Also, before everyone starts jumping to DMV and getting a CDL, keep in mind, if you do, you have to put DOT numbers on your TV, you will have to fill out log books, YOU WILL have to follow ALL DOT Rules, even when not towing your TT.

The rules do not apply to personal vehicles. Unless your hauling campers for someone over the country and getting paid, then you need a CDL for that, otherwise you don't.
The original topic started over a non-commercial cdl not a cdl, there is a diffrence and yes some may need a non-cdl and no they would jot need dot numbers or a log. CDL & NON-CDL are two different animals

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