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Old 06-10-2014, 07:34 PM   #1
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Drivers license oops!

We just discovered both my wife and I don't have drivers licenses that allow us to drive our rig!

Over the past several years we have upgraded both our truck and campers a couple of times, getting bigger each time. We suddenly realized our F-350 dually at 14000 GVW and our Silverback 29RE at 13615 GVW puts us over the max limit on our PA class C licenses (we're limited to less then 26001 pounds). I checked into the possibility of re-registering the Silverback at a lower weight (you can do that in PA) but it turns out the weight police go by what's on the stickers on the vehicle, not on the registered weight.

So we have 3 choices. First, ignore it and hope we never get stopped or have an accident where weight might be an issue (which also means, of course, knowingly driving illegally). Second, get a class A license. Doable, but a big hassle. Third, downsize the trailer. Right now our dealer has a 2015 Surveyor SVF-293RLTS for less then $4K out. It has a GVWR of 11952, 48 pounds under our DL limit.

Right now we're leaning toward trading trailers. After all, the Silverback is 2 years old and starting to have some issues, including the need for new tires in a year or two.

So a word to the wise...check your drivers licenses and any other state weight restrictions BEFORE your next trade!!
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:45 PM   #2
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join the club with the rest of us rebels. Many are over I bet and don't even know. I'm more concerned about the old farts driving huge class A diesel pushers
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:49 PM   #3
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...I'm more concerned about the old farts driving huge class A diesel pushers
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Not a problem for me, I still have 125# to reach the limit.

According to NCDOT, "Above 26,000 lb GVWR or GCWR requires non-commercial Class A or B"
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:18 PM   #4
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Even with the GVW of the truck are you near it? Seems mighty heavy to get the truck and trailer over 26k. Our Chevy 3500 (7k) and Columbus (14k) are about 21k.

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Even with the GVW of the truck are you near it? Seems mighty heavy to get the truck and trailer over 26k. Our Chevy 3500 (7k) and Columbus (14k) are about 21k.

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not the actual weight, the GCVWR. The GVWR of my Chevy 3500 is 11,600, GVWR of my 32ft 5er is 13900. At 25,500 GCWR I'm barely legal.
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Sounds like a great combo though
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Second, get a class A license. Doable, but a big hassle.
How big a hassle?

http://www.dot4.state.pa.us/pdotform...orms/dl-31.pdf

Is it more than 5 bucks and a road test?
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I checked Ky's license class and it's 26k limit before requiring a Class C CDL. The statue just states "weight". If using GVW of my fiver and TV I'm #24,100 combined. Thanks for the useful info.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:59 PM   #9
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How big a hassle?

http://www.dot4.state.pa.us/pdotform...orms/dl-31.pdf

Is it more than 5 bucks and a road test?
OK, lets see...possibly the biggest hassle is finding someone at PennDot who actually has a clue. When you say Class A license they immediately reply with something like "oh, you mean a CDL". Once you get past that there seems to be no study guide so they tell you to use the CDL guide. Then there's the problem of finding someone with a Class A to go with me, since I can't legally drive my rig on a learners permit, to the testing location, the nearest one being 50 miles away. That's about the extent of my personal knowledge but I refer you to this link for a real horror story:

Pennsylvania DOT Requirements For Non-Commercial Class "B" Driver's License For Motorhomes Over 26,000 pounds - Laws and legislative action - FMCA Motorhome Forums

Now don't get me wrong, I like my Silverback but it is more camper then we really need. The one we're looking at is a foot shorter and 1800 pounds lighter with virtually the same features as the Silverback. We have found the length to be an issue a couple times with the kind of places we go as loosing a foot might be a good thing and lighter is always a good thing!
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Even with the GVW of the truck are you near it? Seems mighty heavy to get the truck and trailer over 26k. Our Chevy 3500 (7k) and Columbus (14k) are about 21k.

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Yea, we're no where near the combined GVWR but the law uses those weights for determining the required license class. In our case truck: 14,000 trailer 13,15 for a total combined GVWR of 27,615. 1615 pounds over what my license allows. Things get all goofy and complicated here as soon as the trailer goes over 10,000 GVW.
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