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Old 04-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #81
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I do think I am going to be fine at this point. I want to thank all of you guy's for the education. In all fairness to the dealership and the salesman they may have been right. They did do some checking using the VIN number but they did not have the real weights that I got done today. So I might be at max limits but I am sure it will not be over. Again we will know for sure Tomorrow.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:22 PM   #82
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Ok guys and gals here is my take on all of this. Curb weight of my truck is 5615-5687 I can remove about 60lbs by taking the spare and putting it in the trailer. My GVWR is 7200 if I use the high number of 5687 take it off the 7200 that leave me 1513 now I weigh 185 the lady weighs 135 and Dry tongue weight is 920 That leaves me 273 lbs of tongue weight. This trailer weighs 6395 lbs dry and can carry 2348 lbs at max load I cannot see the tongue weight going up 273Lbs. My trucks loaded trailer weight cannot exceed 9600 lb so the trailer I bought fully loaded is only 8743 lbs. the GCWR of the truck is 15,500 LBS so it looks like I should be ok if I only load the trailer with about 1500-1600 lbs. The way the axles are spread apart on that trailer I think I should be ok.
so these are real weights then?
OK - remember that tow rating is based on 150lb driver and 1/2 tank of gas. Every lb you add to the trucks cargo comes off that tow rating - so more gas, wife, food/firewood/etc. It's not 273lbs of tongue weight to worry bout.

"fully loaded' at 8743? That is with your food, dishes, bedding, chairs, etc all aboard? Water? food? Have you confirmed 9600 is what YOUR truck is rated to tow (based on options, gearing, cooling, etc?)

TV is 5700 TT is 8750 is 14,450. So yes, you are under your GCWR but a fair amount.

Yes, LT tires have more load capacity and are stiffer - but they also weigh more!
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:33 PM   #83
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so these are real weights then?
OK - remember that tow rating is based on 150lb driver and 1/2 tank of gas. Every lb you add to the trucks cargo comes off that tow rating - so more gas, wife, food/firewood/etc. It's not 273lbs of tongue weight to worry bout.

"fully loaded' at 8743? That is with your food, dishes, bedding, chairs, etc all aboard? Water? food? Have you confirmed 9600 is what YOUR truck is rated to tow (based on options, gearing, cooling, etc?)

TV is 5700 TT is 8750 is 14,450. So yes, you are under your GCWR but a fair amount.

Yes, LT tires have more load capacity and are stiffer - but they also weigh more!
Weighted the truck today with new goodyear LT tires 5800 lbs including me the wife and a full tank of gas.Rear was 2520 Front was 3280 with those numbers I should fine but tomorrow will tell the story.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:01 PM   #84
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:47 PM   #85
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OOOOH just like facelifts done with duct tape! Or 'hair' from a spray can.
Get the right truck. Long term it's the much better way to go.

I've played the 'modified' game with motorcycles and jeeps - just like most medications there are side effects besides the intended one(s).


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Picked up the new TT today, Dealer set up hitch, its a Reese hitch without sway control. So I drove it home on a windy day 15-25 MPH without sway control. The Ford electronic sway never activated but I kept my speed down to 55 felt stable except for one thing the front end felt very light. Got it to the scales and my results are as follows. Front 3240 lost 40 lbs since yesterdays weight Rear 3540 thats an increase 1020 trailer axles 5820 gross 12600. Full tank of fuel wife and I in truck Battery on trailer and two full 20lb bottles of propane. That was with 3 loose links on each side of the hitch. I think I need to tighten it up another link or two.. Truck was level and had plenty of power to pull the load. Mileage went from 18.9 to 9.0 MPG Some very long up grades along the way back.
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Picked up the new TT today, Dealer set up hitch, its a Reese hitch without sway control. So I drove it home on a windy day 15-25 MPH without sway control. The Ford electronic sway never activated but I kept my spped down to 55 felt stable except for one thing the front end felt very light. Got it to the scales and my results are as follows. Front 3240 lost 40 lbs since yesterdays weight Rear 3540 thats an increase 1020 trailer axles 5820 gross 12600. Full tank of fuel wife and I in truck Battery on trailer and two full 20lb bottles of propane. That was with 3 loose links on each side of the hitch. I think I need to tighten it up another link or two.. Truck was level and had plenty of power to pull the load. Mileage went from 18.9 to 9.0 MPG Some very long up grades along the way back.
Try tipping your hit head back a notch to try and get that 40lbs back.
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So I'm not the weight police but I can't get over the numbers are just numbers idea or swap parts to make it work thoughts, you can't change the weights it's registered with from the manufacturer unless your in Australia.
We all mess up with weights but to just turn a blind eye to them is dumb.
Example, I bought a trailer (32ft ) then truck was too small, bought a bigger truck and manage to go 500 over gross and got stopped at a scale ( British Columbia). Unload excess into my wife's van and avoided a ticket and tow.
Parked the trailer on our lot and bought a bigger truck (8600 to 9600 gvw)
Now I've bought another truck (f150 ecoboost), weighed it then went trailer shopping and stayed below all the max numbers and still managed a 26 footer that was 600 # lighter than a 24 footer we looked at. Now I can tow and enjoy without living on the edge. The comments about control and stopping are right on, the thought of just getting used to it being to heavy then its alright are not. I don't want to wait for the tail waging the dog or losing your brake at any time, been there and done that with a company truck and trailer and don't want to do it again. Every body needs to know the numbers and use them properly because it's not just your life on the line and anything could happen at any time. Be safe, be informed and live a long and happy holiday life.
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That is a V6 engine here is the window sticker using the VIN number he posted.
It only has a GVWR of 7,200 lbs
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