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Old 02-28-2019, 11:26 PM   #1
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EGR Delete

Or not. Haven't been here for a bit(some folks think I don't come across just right);o) Read a lot about EGR delete for more power. Seems 50% say go for it and 50% say waste of time, waste of time folks say at WOT the EGR is closed others have their opinion.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:35 PM   #2
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What problem are you solving? Do you really need more power?

Downside: Pollution, Resale Value, . . . . That stuff is there for a good reason.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:43 PM   #3
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Simply asking a question, no need to get in a huff!
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:56 PM   #4
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I don't think it gives more power at peak, but delete can help make more power at part throttle and also improve efficiency. They are a bad idea on diesels and a good idea on gas motors. On a gas motor they can improve efficiency by removing some pumping losses on the throttle. Direct injected gas and diesel motors don't need a throttling plate so they don't get an efficiency benefit from EGR. What it does do on a diesel is lower NOx emissions. That is it's only benefit. If I had a Diesel with an EGR I would delete it. NOx is a localized problem, meaning if I lived in the LA valley I wouldn't delete it, but across the vast windswept plains, It's about as damaging as a surfer peeing in the ocean once and awhile.

PS, The heavy truck industry with millions and millions of miles logged with and without EGR says it's a 3-5% economy hit with it. So in 300,000 miles it will add up to $1000-$2000.
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usually people delete for a little more power and certainly the MPG difference. some don't like having to run DEF and the issues that it can cause. some trucks will never have issues with it. You can hurt your resale value in some markets as some places will refuse to work on it or refuse to buy it/trade it in. as far as the EGR being closed at WOT, its kind of a moot point. how often will your truck ever see WOT? it probably wont see it often and when it does, only for short durations. and WOT is probably going to be way out of your powerband anyway. Tuning a diesel is where you can run into some serious issues as far as actually hurting it.


on the commercial side of things, Diesel Generators do NOT use DEF and do NOT run at WOT. we run at 1800 RPM all day long, for thousands of hours.
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Old 03-01-2019, 12:04 AM   #6
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Hersbird/IsLeDog thanks for your input, trying to learn some stuff.
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:40 AM   #7
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I did a emissions delete because of def problems. Best thing thing I ever did to the truck.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:27 AM   #8
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The only reason it's there is EPA.
Customer is not getting anything from it other than a more expensive, complex and prone to fail vehicle.
The delete will give you some more power, a better MPG, less maintenance and longevity but you lose resale value.
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The EGR will do nothing for a power increases on your Cummins 6.7L engine. Now if you are really talking about the DPF and going to a TBE, than yes that will help. But you will need a programmer and software to be able to operate and increase your HP/TQ plus increase fuel mileage to do this. If you don't the engine and transmission will go into LIMP mode and throw all sorts of codes and CEL's.

If you want to run without removing the EGR but have it not operate than simply disconnect the electrical connection at the solenoid valve on the drive side of the engine. This is were the crossover tube from the EGR cooler on the Passenger side emits cooled exhaust gasses to be reintroduce into the air horn on the Driver side. The connection might be under the batwing, if I remember correctly. You will get a CEL but this will not harm your engine.
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