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01-12-2019, 07:40 PM
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Electrical problems - truck starter
I understand this isn’t a repair forum, helping a co worker and hit a snag. I replaced his starter about 3 weeks ago ( solenoid was bad housing was cracked as well. Worked great for two weeks then while driving truck just died no electrical anywhere in truck. I go today to look wiggle the battery cables a little loose but I hear solenoid click. I crawl underneath wires close but not touching loosen them separate as far as can re hook cables get all electrical back turn key lose everything again. Check starter again reroute wires to increase spacing but don’t think that was problem. Try again got power to everything turn key lose all electrical. Just disconnect and reconnect negative have power 12.8 volts to be exact. I turn key lose power again. Drop starter for at least 5th time test using battery box and screw driver appears to work fine. Only thing I can think of is short in starter. Any thoughts would be appreciated co worker can’t afford mechanic so would really like to be able to figure out
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01-12-2019, 07:53 PM
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Bad battery? Have you checked the bat voltage when you turn on ignition?
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01-12-2019, 08:03 PM
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Have you cleaned BOTH battery cable clamps? They can read fine voltage but then short out under load if not making good contact.
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01-12-2019, 08:04 PM
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Make sure battery connection are tight and clean.
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01-12-2019, 08:23 PM
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Make sure the battery is good, clean, tight terminals (both ends). Also check and see if there is a missing/broken bond strap between the engine block and the frame.
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01-12-2019, 08:57 PM
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I replaced a starter once and had a similar issue. The battery was grounded to the starter mounting bolt. I thought I had replaced it properly, but instead of the bolt being through the eye, I only pinched the eye to the mount. Restoring the ground properly fixed the problem for me.
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Cut it 3 times and it's still too short...
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01-12-2019, 09:46 PM
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I can double check the battery but I did have jumper box on it New clamps and battery so no corsion but not going to eliminate those as options possible negative strap but I did by pass with the jumper box positive to battery and neg to alternator bolt
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01-12-2019, 10:07 PM
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Opps forgot to say thanks for the advice
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01-13-2019, 03:43 PM
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Starter
My Duramax had a similar starter problem. I was told at the time that the cable between battery and starter would degrade over time. Dealer tested the voltage at the starter during cranking. They checked it two days in a row and couldn’t pin point it. 3rd day I dropped it off and it never cranked with oe starter again. Apparently it had a bad spot on the windings.
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01-13-2019, 03:46 PM
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I am following this. If you find the solution I would certainly like to hear it. My old gray mare did the exact same thing to me the other day. I called AAA assuming my battery had died and they came and checked it. The battery was good-fully charged and capable of maintaining a load. The terminals were good-clean and tight--and yet no power at all. I found out later that the radio had even been reset. AAA guy said "let me give it a boost just to say I did" and everything started working again and has been for the last several days. Would like to know what else I might need to look for when it happens again. Wish the battery had been bad so I wouldn't be wondering.
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01-13-2019, 05:59 PM
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seems like yall are having connection issues with the ground side or positive of the battery, corrosion or loose connection especially if the radio resets and loss of power, check the connections and grounds! could be anything, maybe a beaver got under the hood and chewed on stuff! I do see that frequently in the winter months, rats like it warm and cozy
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01-13-2019, 08:02 PM
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what make is this and motor?
Is this a Chevy? the wires that are hooked up with the cable use to be fuseable links. if so you may have fried them with your lose connection?
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01-13-2019, 10:44 PM
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No it is a Mazda in name but has Ford stamped on more parts put the battery on trickle charge and the co worker gonna have both tested
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01-15-2019, 07:40 AM
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High resistance connection
You have a bad (high resistance) connection somewhere.
Use your voltmeter to check voltage drops across cables, connections (battery), engine ground strap, and starter solenoid contacts, etc., as you crank the starter.
A high resistance connection will allow the voltage to check as normal, but will not allow current to flow.
It could be as simple as a loose nut or bolt, or corrosion.
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01-15-2019, 10:33 AM
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I had a similar issue with my 1999 F150. Would just die and all power would disappear, gauges, radio, everything. Started right back up and would run for awhile (days sometime) then do it again. After a lot of trouble shooting my mechanic replaced the battery and all was fine. The battery had previously tested fine but evidently had an intermittent issue.
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01-15-2019, 11:26 AM
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Have you load tested the battery???
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01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
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Findings
moose074 , sooo what did you find? don't leave us hanging? Bad Battery?
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01-15-2019, 11:12 PM
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Still waiting to have starter and battery tested we both coach so hopefully this weekend
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01-19-2019, 11:46 PM
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Electrical problems - truck starter
Ok had to make trip town today took battery and starter for testing starter kept blowing fuse on testing machine took 5 try’s and the manager to get the kid to understand that starter not machine was defective. Battery test good but low. Installed new starter nothing no horn light ect. Connect jumper box but ground to alternator truck Starts right up. I am thinking short in battery cable but tight connection at block and battery gonna leave battery on trickle charge try again later
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01-20-2019, 08:52 AM
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Sounds familiar. Since they jumped my truck it has been acting fine. Its been over a week and has been stopped and started numerous times daily without issue. Hopefully it will continue to do so. Not my TV so not as concerned as I would be otherwise.
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