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Old 11-15-2012, 08:45 PM   #1
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EPA... the End of Tuners?

If you haven't done it or wanted to it my be to late.

I know this effects GM's LML's what about the Dodge's and Fords?

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Due to our dialogue with governmental agencies within the United States, H&S Performance, LLC has decided to voluntarily suspend production of all tuning devices and EGR/DPF modification kits, effective immediately. Many H&S products and accessories not affected by this situation are still available, and will continue to be available through our dealer network and our website.
We are now working diligently to remedy this situation, and look to again offer tuning products to our customers at the earliest date possible. Rest assured that we are doing everything within our power to move forward and resume product sales, and thank each of our loyal customers for their patience and support during this time.
We at H&S are committed to providing our customers with the highest quality, most innovative products available. H&S products are unrivaled in quality, ingenuity, and technology, and are backed up by the best customer service in the industry. All future H&S products offered will be built upon these same principals, and will be manufactured to satisfy the needs of our auto enthusiast customers. Information concerning the continuation of production of our products will be made available to the public as soon as possible.
Although shipping has been suspended, H&S is committed to providing our existing customers with the highest level of service possible, and will continue to do so without interruption. Please do not hesitate to contact us at any time should you require assistance with any H&S product, we are here to help.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:39 PM   #2
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If the list them for off road use only it's all good!
I'm glad I don't live in an emissions testing state.

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:42 PM   #3
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If the list them for off road use only it's all good!
I'm glad I don't live in an emissions testing state.

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Me too. My bully dog programmer for my Nissan Titan. Says for off road use only. It sure seems to run great on pavement.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:50 PM   #4
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Never heard of that company, but I think most of these company's were on borrowed time due to the products being for "offroad" use. If big brother can't get all of the little guys (us), they will get the bigger fish. And regs are getting more changes for 2014 and 2017.

-even heavy equipment is required to have tier 4 on new equipment, and even some retrofitting of older equipment
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:56 PM   #5
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I think they all list them as off off-road, closed-course racing use only. I should clarify it was their delete package that got them in hot water. So I think for now a tune c/w emission intact is still fare game.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:01 PM   #6
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If the list them for off road use only it's all good!
I'm glad I don't live in an emissions testing state.

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I think we will all be there soon but honestly people know that what their doing is technically illegal weather we agree w/ it or not.

I don't like it either but I'm not going to kid myself thinking that it will get better (at least not in the next 4 years)
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:45 PM   #7
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would'nt commuting to/from work qualify as closed loop racing??? just curious
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:47 PM   #8
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Our rigs will eventually be targeted as well.

Limited to amount of trips per year or something silly like that.

And then a "you don't need all that" to go camping!
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 AM   #9
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That company (H&S) as well as MADS (Smarty) both have stopped production and development of emission delete tunes and hardware.

As of now, H&S insists it will continue updating their products for customers. It really doesn't have anything to do with IF you have testing, but WHEN you will have it.

That said, I just ordered all my deletes and programmer.......
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:20 AM   #10
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Think for now, only products labeled for off-use will be targeted first...think there is some basic tuners that don't get into deletes, etc..so a little safe for the moment.

Waiting for all the states to incorporate California's tow law speed limit of 55mph... Gov just can't leave us alone!
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