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03-13-2017, 11:22 AM
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Equalizer hitch hitting camper frame
Recently purchased a XLR Hyperlite 26HFS and an Equalizer hitch to tow it with. I noticed that backing up or pulling forward and turning sharply causes the head of the hitch to hit the safety chain attachment point and the frame of the camper.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
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03-13-2017, 11:31 AM
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Equalizer hitch hitting camper frame
Yes, and I went round and round with FR and the manufacture of the equalizer. It kept pinching the chains and snapping them, and that was with not a sharp turn. I got no where with either of them. Luckily my dealer let me swap it out.
I changed to a husky centerline TS weight distribution hitch. It has a smaller head profile and allows me to turn without head of hitch hitting safety chains. I know of another user that had his chains relocated back.
The centerline is similar to the equalizer. I like it better than the equalizer.
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03-13-2017, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac04401
Yes, and I went round and round with FR and the manufacture of the equalizer. It kept pinching the chains and snapping them, and that was with not a sharp turn. I got no where with either of them. Luckily my dealer let me swap it out.
I changed to a husky centerline TS weight distribution hitch. It has a smaller head profile and allows me to turn without head of hitch hitting safety chains. I know of another user that had his chains relocated back.
The centerline is similar to the equalizer. I like it better than the equalizer.
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Thanks for the reply. I would relocate the chains but it isn't hitting just the chain attachment. It will hit the frame. Equalizer suggested etiher notching the frame (no way!) or using a ball on the hitch that has a 1" or 2" rise so that the frame is higher in relation to the hitch head.
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03-13-2017, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebarnett71
Thanks for the reply. I would relocate the chains but it isn't hitting just the chain attachment. It will hit the frame. Equalizer suggested etiher notching the frame (no way!) or using a ball on the hitch that has a 1" or 2" rise so that the frame is higher in relation to the hitch head.
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Equal-i-zer WDHs don't have chains.
You must be using their brand name, for a different brand of WDH.
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03-13-2017, 12:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Equal-i-zer WDHs don't have chains.
You must be using their brand name, for a different brand of WDH.
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The chains I am referring to are the safety chains of the camper and where they attach to the frame of the camper.
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03-13-2017, 12:04 PM
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Correct. The post and the issue is the trailer SAFTY chains that go from the trailer to your hitch. I believe your post was perfectly clear stating it was safety chains. Thus my response. Good luck in your decision.
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03-13-2017, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebarnett71
Thanks for the reply. I would relocate the chains but it isn't hitting just the chain attachment. It will hit the frame. Equalizer suggested etiher notching the frame (no way!) or using a ball on the hitch that has a 1" or 2" rise so that the frame is higher in relation to the hitch head.
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Yeah, I was not impressed when I spoke with the owner about the issue. Did he tell you yours was the first time they was hearing of the issue?
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03-13-2017, 01:35 PM
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sorry my mistake
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03-13-2017, 01:38 PM
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Mine does not hit the frame but it will hot the safety chains. THis to me is a FR issue.. They should NOT be mounted to close to the end of the trailer. They should be a foot or so back from the end on the frame. The chains are supposed to "catch" the trailer, kinda hard when they are so close together.
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03-13-2017, 01:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73
Mine does not hit the frame but it will hot the safety chains. THis to me is a FR issue.. They should NOT be mounted to close to the end of the trailer. They should be a foot or so back from the end on the frame. The chains are supposed to "catch" the trailer, kinda hard when they are so close together.
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Talking to the choir. When I spoke to FR there stance was that's where frame manufacture put it (lippert). Did not want to hear that it defeated purpose of safety chains.
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03-13-2017, 02:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac04401
Talking to the choir. When I spoke to FR there stance was that's where frame manufacture put it (lippert). Did not want to hear that it defeated purpose of safety chains.
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I've considered moving them, in the end put quick links in and just replace them as needed once and a while.
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03-14-2017, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac04401
Yeah, I was not impressed when I spoke with the owner about the issue. Did he tell you yours was the first time they was hearing of the issue?
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Yep, they have never heard of the issue....
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03-14-2017, 07:09 AM
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I know at least two people that have called them.
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03-14-2017, 07:44 AM
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I have a brand new V-Lite 30WIKSS and a brand new Equalizer Q4. Got a new Propride 3P 1400. blows the EQ away in my opinion. BTW, anyone want to buy my Equalizer?
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03-14-2017, 07:04 PM
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I must be missing something. This sounds like a situation that would be solved by tilting the ball away from the truck. My hitch attaches to the gooseneck with two big bolts and the top has a pen with a washer stack. More washers tilts the ball away lowers the rear end of the torque bars and should solve a frame clearance problem. I'm sure somebody will tell me why I'm wrong
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03-14-2017, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom48
I must be missing something. This sounds like a situation that would be solved by tilting the ball away from the truck. My hitch attaches to the gooseneck with two big bolts and the top has a pen with a washer stack. More washers tilts the ball away lowers the rear end of the torque bars and should solve a frame clearance problem. I'm sure somebody will tell me why I'm wrong
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Not wrong, but with this hitch the head us fairly large.. It's buried in snow or I'd take a pic but it is the size of the hitch head that creates the clearance issues. It stops with in a fraction of an inch of the coupler. With the chains there, or a frame, no more space.
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03-14-2017, 07:44 PM
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Tilting the ball changes how much weight is disbursed to the front axle.
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03-15-2017, 06:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac04401
Tilting the ball changes how much weight is disbursed to the front axle.
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Correct, tilting the head is part of the weight distribution set up. Tilting it more will change the weight distribution, and I am not sure it would create the clearance I need.
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03-15-2017, 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebarnett71
Correct, tilting the head is part of the weight distribution set up. Tilting it more will change the weight distribution, and I am not sure it would create the clearance I need.
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Look into the husky centerline. I like mine and it solved the problem
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03-15-2017, 07:55 AM
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I would not want nor accept a hitch that pinches in tight turns. Period.
I hope you get resolution- most likely with a different hitch.
Good luck!! Please keep us informed.
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