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Old 10-13-2015, 09:16 PM   #21
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I'm in the same boat as I am also a newbie. I have a 2007 Tundra with 5.7L V8 with full factory tow package that is rated to two 10,600 lbs. I purchased a RW Premier Ultralight 5th Wheel that has a gvwr of 9206lb. If I use the suggested 15 and 25% of gvwr as my range for pin weight that is 1381# min pin wt. and 2301 max pin wt. I read this and got to checking and my payload (CCC) for my truck is 1475. After taking out 340# for my wife and me and 250 for hitch in bed that leaves 885 for pin wt. I am way over wt. as I see it. Any disagreement? As a newbie to 5th wheels I naively listened to the salesman convince me that my truck could more than handle the weight and pull the RV with out problems. Do I need a new and bigger truck?
Don't listen to the salesmen, listen to the members on this blog- the majority are bang on with what I have learned. When we go to tow mode we will get a lighter trailer, save gas and feel safe. Cheers to all.
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:09 AM   #22
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How am I over and what am I over on? A statement like that is confusing. Could you elaborate?
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Old 10-15-2015, 12:01 AM   #23
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How am I over and what am I over on? A statement like that is confusing. Could you elaborate?
This refers to the pin weight of the 5th wheel as compared to the cargo capacity of the pickup.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:07 AM   #24
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How am I over and what am I over on? A statement like that is confusing. Could you elaborate?

The problem with a 3/4 diesel is the fact that the engine weighs so much.
Eats up your payload.
With four adults, I only had 700 lbs left for payload.




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Old 10-15-2015, 08:36 AM   #25
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The problem with a 3/4 diesel is the fact that the engine weighs so much.
Eats up your payload.
With four adults, I only had 700 lbs left for payload.




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My yellow sticker says my payload is 2290 pounds. My tongue weight when my trailer is the heaviest is 1285 (when full of water for traveling- a note though I have only filled my TT with water once for traveling but for this illustration I will use all the "high" numbers). I run the EQ 4 pt which is 78 pounds.

I carry two 2k's with gas and those are 100 pounds combined. I carry 3 bikes and those are 105 pounds combined. I carry one cooler with snacks and drinks that is 35 pounds and I put my sons plastic picnic table in the truck bed too, which is 15 pounds. Other than that it is just me my wife and my son in the truck and all of us are less than 400 pounds.

All of us and the truck gear is 655 pounds plus the highest TW of 1285 equals, plus the WDH is 2018 pounds total. 2290 - 2018 = 272 pound wiggle room (which is good because my sons 3 and he will get bigger).

I have been to the CAT scale unloaded, loaded, with and without WDH. I am intimately familiar with my weights (because on my old truck I was over) but I can say without a doubt with my new truck and setup I am not over.
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My yellow sticker says my payload is 2290 pounds. My tongue weight when my trailer is the heaviest is 1285 (when full of water for traveling- a note though I have only filled my TT with water once for traveling but for this illustration I will use all the "high" numbers). I run the EQ 4 pt which is 78 pounds.

I carry two 2k's with gas and those are 100 pounds combined. I carry 3 bikes and those are 105 pounds combined. I carry one cooler with snacks and drinks that is 35 pounds and I put my sons plastic picnic table in the truck bed too, which is 15 pounds. Other than that it is just me my wife and my son in the truck and all of us are less than 400 pounds.

All of us and the truck gear is 655 pounds plus the highest TW of 1285 equals, plus the WDH is 2018 pounds total. 2290 - 2018 = 272 pound wiggle room (which is good because my sons 3 and he will get bigger).

I have been to the CAT scale unloaded, loaded, with and without WDH. I am intimately familiar with my weights (because on my old truck I was over) but I can say without a doubt with my new truck and setup I am not over.
Im assuming he assumed you had a 5er like the OP. If you had a 5er of the same weight, your wiggle room would be gone.

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Old 10-15-2015, 09:16 PM   #27
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Im assuming he assumed you had a 5er like the OP. If you had a 5er of the same weight, your wiggle room would be gone.



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That makes a little more sense, I'd be looking at 25 percent of gvw instead of about 15 ish now. I can see that being eaten up quick.
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This is the only "1/2" ton I would tow a fifth with. They do make them.
My old 04 F150 with a 10 3/4 rear end and a 3000 lb payload.
That truck drove very nice with or without a load.
I would put my Rzr in the bed and forget it was there.

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Just keep in mind that there is no slack in the lawyer stickers, if you go 1# over the weight limit, the whole rear end will collapse and the engine will explode.
LOL. Don't bring any of that common sense stuff into this discussion, it is not welcome.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:09 AM   #30
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The problem with a 3/4 diesel is the fact that the engine weighs so much.
Eats up your payload.
With four adults, I only had 700 lbs left for payload.




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As long as you are aware of the fact that you traded your 250 for the exact same truck with an overload spring and possibly a 4" block instead of 2" more power to you. But if you truly think you are safer or more responsible than a 250 owner because your sticker says so I'd have to respectfully disagree.
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