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Old 10-22-2015, 10:15 AM   #41
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This is the only "1/2" ton I would tow a fifth with. They do make them.
My old 04 F150 with a 10 3/4 rear end and a 3000 lb payload.
That truck drove very nice with or without a load.
I would put my Rzr in the bed and forget it was there.

It looks squatted in the rear to me.

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Old 10-22-2015, 10:16 AM   #42
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Back to topic.

The dealers that claim half ton towable are the real crooks here. They claim certain things that are not true.If the RVDA would have some teeth and force dealers to sell truthfully that would go a long way to prevent overloaded half ton pickups.
At the Toronto RV show this past weekend I checked the GVWR on several half ton towable claims. I saw 12,500 lbs, 11,600 lbs, 10,500 lbs as some weights. The top 2 are a no go, we all know you say you wont load it up but people do.

The OP can tow with his truck, should he? That is his decision but many have provided reasons why he shouldn't.

If the DOT gets educated properly on the RV industry and what can tow this or that enforcement can take place. This should also include safety chains and weight distribution hitches. Until they know enough to enforce the rules it should be hands off.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:16 AM   #43
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What? 3000 lb payload on a f150?


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9100 GVWR 4x4 with a plow front end.
Heaviest 1/2 you will find.
Actually it was built like the old F250 that had the 150 front section.
It was F150 from the cab forward, F250 from the cab rearward.
And notice the rear axle placement- not good turning radius though.
Correct on the 7 lug.

It was a great truck.
Bought if used for 13k, sold it 7 years later for 12,500.
First person that saw it bought it cash on the spot.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:16 AM   #44
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In my case the derated F 250 is about licencing and need for annual inspections as a truck over 10,000 lbs. My truck is equipped same as a F350 except 2 inch blocks, springs, diff etc are the same
Hey Brian what does your sticker cost, I got the renewal in and it is $185.00 is that the same as yours?
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It looks squatted in the rear to me.

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I had the front lifted 1.5 inches.
With the Rzr- it would ride just about level.
I also had air bags for heavier loads.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:18 AM   #46
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Right. So what's a good way to increase revenue?
Hand out overweight tickets.


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And we will now wait for your evidence that DOT writes tickets for exceeding a manufacturers label. Ample evidence suggests that DOT is NOT concerned with recreational drivers but rather focuses on commercial haulers where the law is very explicit. Once again, my original point was to show that an increase on the sticker doesn't necessarily translate to an actual structural change resulting in a more safe TV. I actually camped right next to a retired LEO that worked as a DOT safety inspector that was clearly overloaded!!!!(1/2 ton Chevy loaded DOWN with tools in the bed hauling a large Open Range TT)
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Ok.
Right from the horses mouth..
Im sitting out front the local Rcmp office, I talked to them.
It is under the Canadian highway traffic act.
Going over gvwr can net you a fine starting at $73 up to $2500.
Rcmp can direct you to a weigh station, and follow you there to check your weights.


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Old 10-22-2015, 10:30 AM   #48
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Ok.
Right from the horses mouth..
Im sitting out front the local Rcmp office, I talked to them.
It is under the Canadian highway traffic act.
Going over gvwr can net you a fine starting at $73 up to $2500.
Rcmp can direct you to a weigh station, and follow you there to check your weights.


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In the states, you could write tickets ALL DAY LONG at the entrance to any campground, yet I've never seen nor heard of a single person being fined. I'd venture that probably at least 50% of all rigs I've ever encountered were over the TV GVWR. Like I stated earlier, I just upgraded my TV and don't advocate severely overloading a TV. But I've got enough sense to know that there are WAY too many variables when towing to say that a number on a door is THE point where you instantly go from 100% safe to completely unsafe. Especially when that number can be different on identical trucks.
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You're in Canada. That explains it. In the states, you could write tickets ALL DAY LONG at the entrance to any campground, yet I've never seen nor heard of a single person being fined. I'd venture that probably at least 50% of all rigs I've ever encountered were over the TV GVWR. Like I stated earlier, I just upgraded my TV and don't advocate severely overloading a TV. But I've got enough sense to know that there are WAY too many variables when towing to say that a number on a door is THE point where you instantly go from 100% safe to completely unsafe. Especially when that number can be different on identical trucks.

Oh I 100% agree. The truck isn't going to blow up and kill a bus load of nuns, if I go a pound over gross.

Just stating the legal side of it.

I thought in " sue everybody" USA, most people would be more concerned with going over gross....?


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Hey Brian what does your sticker cost, I got the renewal in and it is $185.00 is that the same as yours?
Don

Mine was over $200, that might include the transfer fee. I will know more in February. I had a choice of derated at 8500 I believe or full at 9,900 lbs. I opted for the max possible.
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