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07-25-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheels Down
Like I said "good job".
You made a quick assessment/decision to engage with the equipment you had and made a good save of your truck and almost new TT. Nothing wrong with that.
A good drill for anyone towing anything is to see how fast you can pop your hood open. You'd be amazed how "elusive" that lever can be in an emergency.
Some are not as inclined to make the decision you did. And that's fine. But if I have a chance to make a positive difference, I'm in. If I'm in the right place and time,I will help anyone that I am able to without getting myself killed or injured.
That's sometimes the tricky part. But life is always playing tricks on us, right?
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Caution on popping the hood. The hood is actually containing an engine fire because it is depriving the fire of oxygen. Only popping the hood to the safety latch may be beneficial because it is still limiting air, but allows someone to use a fire extinguisher through this small opening. It would also be beneficial to arriving firefighters.
However, if the fire under the hood is large, it is not prudent to fully open the hood as this may flash/accelerate the fire and cause injury to the persons in the immediate vicinity. Personal safety first.
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07-25-2016, 04:38 PM
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#42
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Originally Posted by PenJoe
Caution on popping the hood. The hood is actually containing an engine fire because it is depriving the fire of oxygen. Only popping the hood to the safety latch may be beneficial because it is still limiting air, but allows someone to use a fire extinguisher through this small opening. It would also be beneficial to arriving firefighters.
However, if the fire under the hood is large, it is not prudent to fully open the hood as this may flash/accelerate the fire and cause injury to the persons in the immediate vicinity. Personal safety first.
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If that should happen to me it will be new truck, I would let it burn. NEW DUALLY
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07-26-2016, 09:45 AM
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Expensive mistake to make
6% is pretty significant, my truck would tell you but maybe it's cause the steepest hill we go here in La is the bridge over the Mississippi. 8%, 6%, man is my experience different than most. Monarch Pass, has a max of 7%. I crawled up that thing in 3rd gear with tranny temps the highest I've seen. I wouldn' think of putting cruise on mainly because I want to always have some reserves left and it's hard to tell with cruise. You could be floor boarded and not know it.
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07-26-2016, 10:09 AM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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What a bummer glade all where ok. Guessing that the mountain is the one between Nashville and Chattanooga TN. Driven it many a time towing but using tow haul mode. Later RJD
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07-27-2016, 05:03 PM
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What's interesting to me is how I can pull a 13% grade slow a whole lot easier than a 7% grade at 65 mph. Wind resistance is a lot bigger problem than grade. We have really steep switchbacks here in Idaho you can only navigate at 25 mph which pull like a dream compared to a long 7% grade at highway speeds. Especially with my toy hauler as high as it is.
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07-28-2016, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Red and 30WR
Ford 6.0 worst diesel ford ever had. A lot of issues with that engine.
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Almost. Worst to best. 6.4, 6.0, 6.7, 7.3
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08-04-2016, 11:16 AM
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I use the cruise for flats and going downhill. Use the tow haul when first pulling out and in hilly terrain. Never had any problems, not even overheating. Had a 2012 RAM 1500 Hemi, and no problems with that truck either. Agree with other posts that it was either a defect or age. Shame about your trip.
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08-04-2016, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mandring
Almost. Worst to best. 6.4, 6.0, 6.7, 7.3
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HEY!! I have a 2008 6.4 PSD with one "item removed" and it runs like a top. Well maintained i must say, but i've had no issues towing our camper up a few good inclines around Virginia and about to head to Hershey....
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08-04-2016, 12:16 PM
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Location: Florida
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Glad all were ok, I have an 06 with tow boss package and tow a sandpiper 371rebh, 209,000 on truck, truck still runs strong just learned to be proactive in maint. And it keeps on going
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08-04-2016, 04:12 PM
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Location: SE Mi
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Originally Posted by Coolharts
It sounds to me that the turbo had the original flex hose that can rupture, there is a $80 updated turbo feed line 3C3Z-9T516-A and an updated drain tune for $30 6C3Z-9T515-A. A 6.0L is a great engine, just maintain it. The oil cooler is the weak part, it clogs, overheats the EGR cooler and it ruptures allowing coolant to get in the intake and the head gaskets pop.
I have replaced my EGR cooler with a high flow unit and added an external oil cooler, coolant filter, updated FICM and other non power adding mods. I updated a lot of parts but I still have the torque to yield bolts at 140,000 miles and with regular maintenance I am a very happy 6.0L owner..
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+1 on all that. Sorry you had to deal with a fire. Please do read up on the truck/engine you have. It can be a good ride, but you *must* be proactive and maintain it! I have a 6.0 that has a new oil cooler, egr cooler, icp sensor, ipr sensor, stc fitting, cam postion sensor. I still have the original heads, bolts and everything else. I do have an Edge gauge and monitor lots of temps. Please do add gauges, critical is the difference between the oil and water temp. Please do find a good diesel mechanic that knows the 6.0. Most dealers do not. Brian Oomps in Winchester VA, Superior Turbo in Detroit MI do a really good job. Both have lots of my money. Good luck!
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08-04-2016, 06:58 PM
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We discussed this with a mechanic the other day and he says the best thing to do is get the unit out of overdrive./ cruise control. And it is true. because when you are climbing steep grades never mention 6% ( depending on the load) the transmission is continually shifting up and down and getting cooked, and at the same time the engine is revving up and down fighting to maintain the selected speed... Get into a lower gear and let the drive train do its job instead of beating on it.
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08-04-2016, 09:11 PM
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You'll get tiered of putting money in the 6.0. I bought one cheap and did the bulletproofing. Still had problems. Was on a 4700 mile road trip and at 950 miles it died again. Wish it would of burnt to the ground that day. Would of saved me a ton of money when I bought the new 6.7.
Should of listen to everyone one the web, but thought I was getting a deal. There is a reason they are cheap to get when looking for a diesel truck.
Hope you have better luck.
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08-04-2016, 11:15 PM
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I would not own a diesel. Although I have looked at them a number of times for an RV or a truck. Fuel is no cheaper , they are loud and maintenance is more than an efficiently maintained gas engine.
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08-04-2016, 11:19 PM
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Location: Southern NM
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Originally Posted by brandon 2
I would not own a diesel. Although I have looked at them a number of times for an RV or a truck. Fuel is no cheaper , they are loud and maintenance is more than an efficiently maintained gas engine.
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uh... thank you for your opinion?
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08-04-2016, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mnoland30
I bought a 6.0 last year (at a great price, and low mileage) and I didn't know about its issues. Google Bullet Proof Diesel, or 6.0 problems. Once those problems are fixed, the engine should be good for 300,000 miles or so. I haven't done that yet, but I plan to.
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Bought my '06 6.0 F350 two years ago with very low "farm" mileage, for below trade in value. Had it bulletproofed this year, cost me 3K but it's running great. I would definitely buy another if the chassis is in great shape.
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08-05-2016, 01:45 AM
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Location: Illinois
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I wouldn't own anything but a diesel... greatest towing ever.
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08-05-2016, 11:47 AM
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I agree, you did nothing that should have caused that particular failure. Many issues with that motor and that turbo just gave up the ghost at a bad time.
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08-05-2016, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired JSO
That 6.0 International engine that Ford chose to up the horse power/torque every year to keep ahead of the Dodge/GM trucks was the real problem. I had 2 of them over the years. That same engine is still powering most international school buses in service without many headaches.
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I havent read the whole thread, so maybe this has already been said.The 6.0 came about because the 7.3 could not be made "clean enough" to meet epa standards w/o limiting its power output to an unaceptable level.
The 6.0 is loaded with emision controls,the most problimatic being the undersized/poorly designed egr cooler.Another poor design choice was not useing enough cylinder head bolts,thus allowing the heads to lift. The variable ratio compressor wheel in the turbo was an attempt toclean up the turbo lag,and poor low speed boost performance of what was an undersized turbo in the first.The very small passages in the engine oil cooler are prone to clogging as well and needs to be flushed (on the coolant side)on a regular basis.
Lastly, you cannot directly compare the 6.0 that IH uses in its vehicles to the ford version due to the fact that the IH units are over 10k gross and are not all loaded up with emission controls.This was also true of the 2nd generation 7.3,however it did not have emission controls but was instead burdand withseveral design changes that Ford insisted on because of what they considered "driveability issues".In the case of the 7.3,all the issues can be tuned out,and the hp/torque brought up to specs that exceed the 6.0.Unfortuneatly when this is done, the 4r100 trans (which itself was never intended for diesel applications , being a 20 yr old design) becomes the weak link.This is easily fixed with a proper converter and "built" aftermarket trans.
So the bottom line here is that Ford was forced to build the 6.0,such as it is,by the EPA and the fact that the were cost issues as well.The transmission however, was a big improvement!
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08-05-2016, 05:56 PM
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I love my Silverado diesel
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08-05-2016, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spock123
I love my Silverado diesel
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X2 Can't imagine a better combo than a Duramax/Allison combo. This 2013 Silverado 2500HD is my second diesel [6.0 Ford, ugh] and been happy with everything it will do AND the fuel mileage. Sure beat my Titan on mileage and power, but that is apples and oranges.
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