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Old 08-05-2016, 06:37 PM   #61
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X2 Can't imagine a better combo than a Duramax/Allison combo.

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Old 08-05-2016, 06:37 PM   #62
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Almost. Worst to best. 6.4, 6.0, 6.7, 7.3
List should be: Worst to best. 6.4, 6.0, 6.7, 7.3, Dodge, GM
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:04 PM   #63
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Duramax and Allison is excellent. The new Ford designed diesel is right on par with it. Too bad ford stuck with international when they went to the 6.o.
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Old 08-05-2016, 08:18 PM   #64
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So the bottom line here is that Ford was forced to build the 6.0,such as it is,by the EPA and the fact that the were cost issues as well.
The EPA being involved with is is a travesty. They shouldn't meddle in such affairs. I have the JGC EcoDiesel and easily get 25-28 mpg but if you get the same vehicle in Australia you are flirting with 50 mpg. So I ask you, is it better to get 25 mpg and save 10% on emissions or get 50 mpg? You would think that you are doing more for the environment by doubling the mileage, therefore using less fuel overall.

The Prius which everyone raves about is another scam as it's lifetime carbon footprint, from manufacture thru disposal is almost triple that of a Chevy Malibu with a six cylinder.

To think they have brainwashed these people into thinking they're helping the environment but in truth they're actually hurting it.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:17 PM   #65
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They imposed huge fines PER VEHICLE produced too.You would think that thru all of this bs that someone would have lobbyed,or whatever has to be done to create a comercial vehicle class that would have reasonable licenceing and insurance classifications if it did not carry a DOT number and was used as part of a RV combination.For example,leave non comercial the same(less than 10k #) and create a class of truck thats "light comercial" and cannot be DOT registered and used for bussiness purposes.Make it 10001# to 12000#and not need a comercial tag,and be emission exempt like its big brothers.
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The EPA being involved with is is a travesty. They shouldn't meddle in such affairs. I have the JGC EcoDiesel and easily get 25-28 mpg but if you get the same vehicle in Australia you are flirting with 50 mpg. So I ask you, is it better to get 25 mpg and save 10% on emissions or get 50 mpg? You would think that you are doing more for the environment by doubling the mileage, therefore using less fuel overall.

The Prius which everyone raves about is another scam as it's lifetime carbon footprint, from manufacture thru disposal is almost triple that of a Chevy Malibu with a six cylinder.

To think they have brainwashed these people into thinking they're helping the environment but in truth they're actually hurting it.
How is one to know exactly what a JGC EcoDiesel is?
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Damn acronyms, ha. Google is excellent at cracking those codes.
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Interesting about all this junk relating to non polluting vehicles. In a recent Globe and Mail article A guy goes to Hawaii and gets picked up at the airport in a Tesla. Well over 100K in price !. Great, but 90 percent of the electric power in Hawaii is produced by diesel generators. The other 5% is produced by wind turbines. Diesel generators are exceptionally polluting. Did anyone ever price what the replacement batteries cost for a Prius or a Volt.
What a scam these dealers/manufacturers portray.


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Ah.... Environmentalism, the new religion
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