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Old 06-25-2014, 11:00 AM   #11
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I would suggest you go over to a few of the Ford Truck sites and spend some time in the diesel dedicated forums. 2011 was the first year for the 6.7 PSD. Also the first time Ford designed and built there own diesel motor. As with any first edition there is a learning curve ahead of production release. There were updates both in mechanics and programming needed.
Some issues were with the transmission, a few with the turbo, as well as a few other areas. All trucks were not effected, and Ford did do numerous updates along the way. But, keep in mind that if for some reason the motor had to be replaced out of warranty this would cost in the neighborhood of $22,000 to $25,000 from reported figures.
If you do go with a used Ford diesel take the VIN to a Ford dealer and have them run and print off an Oasis Report, this will tell you what services/recalls/repairs have been done on that vehicle by a Ford dealer. It will not show anything done outside of the Ford service family however.
Other than that you will not know what kind of maintenance the truck received.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:28 AM   #12
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If your going to upgrade I would recommend going on up the ladder to the F350. It is very easy to over load the F250 and you are already talking of going larger in RV size as it is.
I would also go new over used. For the smallish price difference you will pick up a new warranty from the get go. Also the 2011 trucks did exhibit more issues that the current diesel. These are not inexpensive trucks to have worked on so the price to purchase difference could be negated in one service repair. These ain't your daddys diesel of years gone by.
Good luck with your choice,
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I would add, purchase an extended warranty and sticker price on these new trucks are not "out the door" price either.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:45 AM   #13
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Lightly used vehicles with mileage, especially full size trucks, are only running a few grand less than the price of a new one. One thing if you're paying cash. But if you're having to finance, there will be little to no difference in payment. Used vehicle loans carry a much higher interest rate than new ones. Plus new ones come with warranty, and no one before you to abuse it.

I remember when you could buy a nicely loaded 2-year old vehicle with well under 30K miles on it for no more than half the price it was new.


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May as well step up to an f350 and have some room to grow without spending that much more.


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Old 06-25-2014, 12:01 PM   #15
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On my second F150 TV here. The 5.4 was ok towing. I have a Ecoboost with 3.73, 11,200 tow capacity, max tow,E series tires and a 8289 Fiver. I am about 2000 lbs under combined total gross weight. I just came back from a 5000 km trip over some pretty hilly terrain on 2 lane roads, no interstates in Near North Ontario. No issues what so ever. It handled all the hills both up and down.
I read and understand you justification for buying used. If desire to spend too much is an issue you could find a 3 year old Ecoboost properly equipped and use this for occasional towing less than a used F250.
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Lightly used vehicles with mileage, especially full size trucks, are only running a few grand less than the price of a new one. One thing if you're paying cash. But if you're having to finance, there will be little to no difference in payment. Used vehicle loans carry a much higher interest rate than new ones. Plus new ones come with warranty, and no one before you to abuse it.

I remember when you could buy a nicely loaded 2-year old vehicle with well under 30K miles on it for no more than half the price it was new.


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This is true, but if you buy used you can go to ford and get an extended warranty that will cover everything for another 4 years for like 2400.00. I know I did it or I would never have bought the 6.0 that I just love it will pull a house. After they tested and inspected everything I had to replace a rear seal or they wouldn't do it. It covered everything form the turbo down. had a $50.00 dollar deductible. They will do do it but they will also go through it with a fine tooth comb. I was traveling to California from Virginia, and in Arkansas I head a weird noise in my rear end. Took it to a Ford Dealer. They replaced the rear end for $50.00. I sure got my money back, it was a 4 year extension and a mileage thing. 4 years are up ( which ever is first) so it's gone now still haven't hit the mileage part yet 124,000 miles on it and still going strong. Had 60,000 miles on it when I bought it for 15,000 dollars.
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I bought our 2011 in oct 2012 for less than 1/2 the sticker price and it still had the Ford Premium Care warranty. Also FWIW at least in Canada any vehicle that is less than 2 years old is considered new by banks for financing purpose so you get new car loan rates.
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I had always heard the phrase that a diesel is just getting broke in at 100 k but it sounds like it is a significant gamble w these engines. Kinda 50/50 whether you get a good one. With the probability of using this truck only for recreation, maybe 5000 miles per year, i really cant justify 65,000 for a new one. Was hoping to sell the 150, put up another 5-10$k cash and use a more comfortable car for running around. I have seen numerous 2011 in the 35-40 range. Mileage at 70-90 k. Which i thought was nothing for a diesel. Thanks for all the input though everyone. Maybe keeping things small and going ecoboost may be best or like the one fellow said look for a used one that has extended warranty options. To get hammered w $100000--25000 reapir cost would certainly take the fun out of the hobby . I dont suppose the 08-10 models are any better in reliabilty?
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2011 is the year ford switched to the 6.7. This is the latest offering from ford. I have a 2011 I bought new and love it. I pull a 34 ft 8000 lb trailer with no problems.
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Definitely step up to an F350 or a ram or chevy 3500 if you are talking about getting bigger TH. Keep payload in mind as nob2 trucks are created equal. Check the tire loading sticker inside the door of any truck you consider. If you even think you are going to want a 5er TH then make sure you are well over the 3500 lb Mark. To give you an idea, my old 09 F250 diesel only had 1500 lbs of available payload whereas my 14 silverado 3500 diesel has 3500 lbs payload (door sticker was 4000 lbs but that dropped after accounting for passengers, fuel etc). You will need a lot of room for pin weight. You will have to decide if you want a long bed with a standard 5ers hitch or a short bed with a slider hitch. If you choose to go with another travel trailer then pay attention to hitch ratings in addition to the rest of the capacities. I learned a short bed chevy had 500 lbs less hitch capacity than a long bed chevy. While that is chevy and not ford, it gives you an idea of done things to keep an eye out for.

As others have said spend some time on ford truck enthusiasts and The diesel stop forums. Also watch this video.

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