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Old 06-18-2015, 06:17 PM   #21
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I am a big Dodge man. My tv is a 2010 2500 ram 5.7 hemi. With that said, I am in the market for a new truck and want to go diesel. The problem is, the new 2500 Rams have coil springs, not leaf. I think the fords are still running leafs. I bet that's where the payload difference is. I have a problem with that and will have to bump up to a one ton.
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Old 06-18-2015, 06:43 PM   #22
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The coils don't make any difference for payload. Look through the years with Ram, or any other 3/4 ton diesel. As soon as you add the diesel option the payload drops. They all have a 10,000lb GVW to meet 3/4 ton registration requirements. Take that same 3/4 ton truck that weighs 7000lbs with a gasser and now swap out an 800lb diesel motor and that's why the payloads are low. 2014-15 Ram 2500's have 3000lbs of payload with the 6.4 Hemi. Drop the Cummins in and it's down to 2200lbs.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:33 PM   #23
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I just left the ford dealer. Looked at a brand new f250 platinum diesel. 1850lb payload. F350 diesel platinum 3100lb. As ppl have said its prob truly nearly the same and purely a sticker thing to go beyond the 10,000 gvcr but just nuts.
To stay *legal* I'd have to go f350 or stay where I am. Makes zero sense to take the loss and gain 200lbs payload. Ya sure bigger brakes, more power etc. But all at a cost. If I am comfortable from the sticker overloading the f250 then that is an option of course that would meet all my needs.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:40 PM   #24
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Ford is a little better on payload, Dodge is a little better on towload. Dodge has the best engine, hands down.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:47 PM   #25
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You never said what you will be towing.


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Old 06-18-2015, 08:02 PM   #26
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I have a Stealth WA2916. Empty 8500 from sticker GVCR I think is 12700 or something in that area... Hitch is like 1050 empty at 35' its long. My 2015 f150 3.5l ecovoost w max tow pulled it and I was careful. Didn't use any weight in my bed... P rated tires stock too... Not ideal but functional
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:51 PM   #27
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I have a Stealth WA2916. Empty 8500 from sticker GVCR I think is 12700 or something in that area... Hitch is like 1050 empty at 35' its long. My 2015 f150 3.5l ecovoost w max tow pulled it and I was careful. Didn't use any weight in my bed... P rated tires stock too... Not ideal but functional
If you went to either the Ford F-250 or the Ram 2500 with the diesel, you'd be asking yourself the same question I did... "Why didn't I do this sooner?" Either truck is good...
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Old 06-19-2015, 09:09 AM   #28
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I've read lots of articles from 2011-2012 (the year range I am looking to get) comparing RAM 2500 vs. Ford F-250 vs. Chevy 2500 , all with their respective Diesel equipped options. Never is it just 1 single truck on-top the entire time.

What I don't seem to get is how when I look at the 2012 F-250 SuperCab 4x4 vs the 2012 RAM 2500 CrewCab 4WD, that Ford seems to best the RAM in payload by 1,000 pounds. that's huge to me. RAM is 2200, and Ford is 3380 or 3490 for short-bed. When I am thinking of hooking my trailer up with a 1300lb hitch weight, then putting 4 people in the cab, plus 30+ gallons of fuel, the only truck that allows me to use my bed for wood and other stuff is the Ford. I'd be at max payload on the RAM. How is it that I see guys pulling huge rigs with the SRW RAM 2500 and not be over payload?

Aren't these trucks supposed to be real close competitors? Some people are RAM fans, some are Ford fans, etc... but with base models having over 1,000lbs more payload, isnt that a huge difference?
You need to understand something LD trucks make a huge amount of money for their company's so yes you are right nobody has the crown for long as the competition is so tight, but with that being said you need to look apple to apples as the weights of all trucks out their have gone up big time since 2012, so you need to look at Trailer life towing guide, they will give you much more complete info to tow with than most any other.

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The F250 Super Duty I just purchased has a Truck Camper Package in addition to the Trailer Tow package. This kicks the CCC up a bit. My research prior to purchase on my F 250 was Fifth Wheel Towing capacity, same as F 350 the way I am equipped. The payload is less by 400 lbs but not a huge deal for me.


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How did you configure a F250 to be within 400Lbs of similar configured F350? What is the Cargo Weight on your yellow sticker on your truck not what it says on the Ford's website?

I have a 2015 F350 Power Stroke Diesel Lariat 4 wheel drive package 3744 cargo (see sticker below) and checking the yellow tags on F250 I couldn't find a F250 over 2700 lbs.
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:04 PM   #30
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I was showing you my f150 at 1650lb sticker vs the f250 at 2000lb. I believe the f250 can technically go much more where the f150 shouldn't. Still it seems that if your buying new why not get the sticker of the 350 ?

Rereading my post I meant my f150 not my f250 (which I don't own one)
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