Originally Posted by lbrjet
Whoever you talked to was wrong, plain and simple. Happens all the time. Believe it if you want to.
2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K
No. I'd rather understand it than believe it just to be right.
My wife will be quite happy to tell you that I'm frequently wrong.
My impression is that the word 'cargo' means load in the vehicle and not on the hitch. If this is true, then the "Occupants and Cargo" rating on the door jamb sticker would not include weight on the hitch.
I just wrote a new message to Toyota at their website asking for clarification on this again.
Then I browsed around a little bit and stumbled on this from Nissan:
Maximum load limits :: Towing a trailer :: Technical and consumer information :: Nissan Pathfinder 2013-2016 Owner's Manual :: Nissan Pathfinder - NiSuv.com
Nissan seems to treat 'cargo' and weight on the hitch as two separate loads. So when they calculate total load to check GVWR, they add occupants and cargo *plus* tongue weight. Again, the door jamb sticker only says "occupants and cargo".
Dodge does the same thing in the fine print here:
2001 RAM Pickup Payload and Towing Charts
My wife's 4Runner is built on a truck frame, and the hitch receiver is attached to the frame and not to the (less rugged) body. So I can see a logical reason that the hitch might take more weight than the limit on Occupants and Cargo carried by the body. In the case of my F150, the two limits are equal.
If I hear back soon from Toyota, i'll post the response here.