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Old 08-15-2016, 08:16 AM   #21
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NO NO NO...............please don't do it!!! As soon as you hook up and get in the truck and depress the gas pedal the whole rig will instantly explode and kill everything within a quarter mile radius! Well according to some people on this forum who profess to know everything because they have an opinion and very little first hand knowledge OR they are just wussies with no ability.
Here's truth.....I do it. Easily. I bought a Flagstaff 8528IKWS. My truck at the time was an F150 5.0L with 3.73 gearing and 1500lb. load capacity and 9400lb tow rating.
I was over weight on both ratings. I also knew I was goin to get a new truck soon. However the truck handled the 5er quite well. Easily in fact. I did get a deal on a very nice F250 with diesel engine. 2600lb load capacity so no problem. It was a pulling monster. I was in awe of the raw power. But being the ONLY vehicle we own(my wife doesn't drive) and we aren't rich enough for 2 vehicles, it was just too stiffly sprung to be safe for her to ride in for any distance. She has e medical issue that makes long trips and rough rides unsafe for her. We went to Myrtle Beach in spring of 2015 and it was almost too much for her. SO....
I got rid of the F250 and got an F150 ecoboost with max tow, 7700lb gvwr and 1930lb load capacity with 11,300 tow capacity. It rides so much better for her and rarely bothers her. It's a pulling machine. Strangely,it even stops going downhill!! Am I going to tow out west where I might encounter extremes in towing conditions? Nope. I'm sure there are situations that might tax the brakes but guess what, those same conditions tax the braking ability on semis too. I've towed through the mountains in Pennsylvania and the Adirondacks in NY. NO problems at all.
So when I tell you you can do it with an F150 I am speaking from direct experience.
If you are competent and drive within your capabilities it's completely safe. If you drive too fast and with recklessness you'll get in trouble no matter what your tow vehicle is. And yes you can tow a 5th wheel with the 5.5 ft box with the proper hitch setup. There are many brands of 5ers that are constructed to do just that too.

Ok start the flaming now.................
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:18 AM   #22
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Dapyes, If this half ton you mention is properly equipped, considering you are going to max it out then get a trailer (also maxed out) that keeps you within the weight limits, it can absolutely work. But, don't guess and be specific about what you want to do. You have to know the ratings of YOUR tow vehicle or the one you are considering buying. Don't think for one second (wishful thinking) that you won't max out truck and trailer... then consider carefully based on even the often ignored GCVR. If you go by GVWR of the truck and trailer ONLY, many half tons will not stay under their GCVR. Life is too short to have to learn the hard way, listen to those that went with too light on the truck only to have to upgrade later.
The other thing is that 5' box. There are some trailers with some hitches that will work, but not all trailers and all hitches.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:25 AM   #23
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NO NO NO...............please don't do it!!! As soon as you hook up and get in the truck and depress the gas pedal the whole rig will instantly explode and kill everything within a quarter mile radius! Well according to some people on this forum who profess to know everything because they have an opinion and very little first hand knowledge OR they are just wussies with no ability.
Here's truth.....I do it. Easily. I bought a Flagstaff 8528IKWS. My truck at the time was an F150 5.0L with 3.73 gearing and 1500lb. load capacity and 9400lb tow rating.
I was over weight on both ratings. I also knew I was goin to get a new truck soon. However the truck handled the 5er quite well. Easily in fact. I did get a deal on a very nice F250 with diesel engine. 2600lb load capacity so no problem. It was a pulling monster. I was in awe of the raw power. But being the ONLY vehicle we own(my wife doesn't drive) and we aren't rich enough for 2 vehicles, it was just too stiffly sprung to be safe for her to ride in for any distance. She has e medical issue that makes long trips and rough rides unsafe for her. We went to Myrtle Beach in spring of 2015 and it was almost too much for her. SO....
I got rid of the F250 and got an F150 ecoboost with max tow, 7700lb gvwr and 1930lb load capacity with 11,300 tow capacity. It rides so much better for her and rarely bothers her. It's a pulling machine. Strangely,it even stops going downhill!! Am I going to tow out west where I might encounter extremes in towing conditions? Nope. I'm sure there are situations that might tax the brakes but guess what, those same conditions tax the braking ability on semis too. I've towed through the mountains in Pennsylvania and the Adirondacks in NY. NO problems at all.
So when I tell you you can do it with an F150 I am speaking from direct experience.
If you are competent and drive within your capabilities it's completely safe. If you drive too fast and with recklessness you'll get in trouble no matter what your tow vehicle is. And yes you can tow a 5th wheel with the 5.5 ft box with the proper hitch setup. There are many brands of 5ers that are constructed to do just that too.

Ok start the flaming now.................

I've got to admit you had me there for a second!
Good lead in!! And very well stated point!
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:26 AM   #24
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Yes, it can be done successfully but you must be careful. And, whoever said you can't use a slider is wrong. The original Pullrite 12k slider was created for the 5-1/2' F150. I could get to 90 degrees if I wanted, and my FW didn't have corner cutouts.

My setup was a 2004 F150 Supercrew, 5.4, 3.73 with all the towing add-ons, pulling a 2002 Cougar FW that scaled at 8400lbs. The truck squatted two inches at hookup, but I don't recall the actual pin weight. Now, gas mileage sucked and against a head wind got down to 8mpg one time.

Being careful means the truck and FW brakes MUST be in top notch condition at all times, and you should be very conscious of how much weight you put in the truck and FW. One caveat: all our towing was up and down the east coast. While we lived in the Blue Ridge mountains, it was just a short trip up our very, very steep driveway, one mile down a steep access road, and on some mild hills to the flatlands, so I can't say how well it would have done during extensive mountain driving.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:45 AM   #25
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I can't speak about the hitch situation, but I can speak on the truck.

Your going to get a lot of "yes & no" on whether or not you can pull a 5er with a 1/2 ton. However in reality it boils down to your use? I wouldn't recommend pulling one all over the U.S.A with a 1/2 ton; mountains, extreme heat, high speed freeways.. etc... etc.. Those examples could be hard on a 1/2 ton pulling a heavy load, that could lead to overheating, blown engine, tranny issues, dangerous conditions for a light truck towing a trailer that is tall and heavy.


How ever, depending on the climate your pulling in you could be perfectly fine for many camping trips to come and never have an issue! I always see 1/2 tons with 5ers at the campground.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:53 AM   #26
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I could be wrong, but I don't ever remember anyone who's pulled a 5th wheel, of the allowable weights, with a F-150, properly equipped Eco Boost, indicate a problem in this often repeated forum discussion. That transmission is so well matched to the engine, a blindfolded person would think the trailer was being pulled with a big engine equipped F-350. When it shifts going up hill, the engine doesn't race to 4000 RPMs as other combinations do, but often doesn't exceed 2800 RPMs. I've pulled my 8289 from Iowa to Phoenix four times. There are mountains and they've given me no pulling or heating issues.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:19 AM   #27
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We have an F150 and a 32' 5th wheel. Pin weight of fiver is 1180 lbs and wet weight is 9200 lbs. F150 towing capacity is 11900 lbs and 5th wheel capacity is 10500 lbs. Carrying capacity is 2150 lbs. Max tow pack on F150 along with Super Springs. We have a 6.5' box but when we had the hitch installed, the dealer said they could install one in a 5.5' box provided the trailer had a Revolution/Sidewinder hitch. Hope this helps you out.
I would have to see a scale weight on that one since 5er pin weights are between 15% and 25% of loaded ready to camp weight on the pin with the majority of 5er between 20% and 24%. You claiming your pin weight at 12.4% which is the ideal pin weight for a TT not a 5er and that 5er would be hard to control going down the road with that light of pin. You need to get that to a scales and pay the 10 bucks to get weighed. I bet you will have a pin north of 2000 lbs.

Here you can estimate you pin weight based on 9500 lbs weight.
Simple Tongue/Pin Weight Estimator - Towing Planner

Example using Dry Hitch Weight for a Rockwood 8282WS is 1324LBS dry pin weight 7499lbs

http://towingplanner.com/Estimators/...99&lw=9627&a=3
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Old 08-15-2016, 04:22 PM   #28
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Don't know about the new eco boost half tons, but the older ones seem to be pretty good at pulling things and getting decent mileage. I have noticed that manufacturers of 5th wheels are trying to get into the 1/2 ton truck market by advertising rigs made for 1/2 ton tracks. I have a 2016 FR 262RGX that is 1/2 ton towable according to spec sheets. This is basically a 30 foot rig and I pull it with a 1 ton Ford diesel. Would not even consider pulling this with any size eco boost rig (like the 1/2 ton and eco boost), but IMHO you really need to be careful what you hook up to it just because it says it will fit a 1/2 ton truck. I'd rather be safe than sorry because things can get real exciting, real quick if you have the wrong matchup.
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It's not so much a question of 'can you pull it' but more 'can you control it.'
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Same ole, same ole, you will kill everyone within a thousand miles, your milk will spoil, your flowers will wilt; total disaster. .

Then of course "but can you stop it"...

Nonsense. It can be done, can be done safely and can be done well within ratings.

That said, not many F-150 builds will allow it. It is a numbers game pure and simple. Do the math on your particular combo.

My combo has been CAT scaled and I am within ALL (yes all) ratings. I have over 20,000 miles towing. I have been forced into a panic stop twice. Once a driver completely lost control right in front of me and smashed into the guard rail. I did stop; did so safely and for the most part without incident. At the next gas station a semi driver came up to me and my wife and commented on how well my rig handled. Mind you I needed to visit the bathroom to change undies .

Do the math, understand the numbers and understand the implications of those numbers.
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