F250 owners

[Doering]

Just starting my research and would like to hear from F250 owners on the 6.2L gas engine for towing. Any major problems or concerns with this engine?

[B and B]

Hello Fellow Ontarian.

The difference in price between a Diesel and Gas was $4k on sale. I have the same service interval as Gas 12k, having a service plan the cost difference between gas and diesel is immaterial.

[Doering]

Hey,

I was told the Diesel was 12K more and oil changes are crazy expensive. I would definitely consider that 4K price tag. Diesel's break down less often? I know they are great if you tow lots.

[OntarioFireFighter]

I have a '14 F250 gasser for a work truck, and a '15 F350 diesel as my personal ride...

The 6.2 tows fine; I use it to move around 8000# generators, and have no issues. It is thirsty - I'm getting about 17L/100km on it, when I'm not towing, but lots of get up and go...

Diesel seems to be getting better mileage; however the smaller tank is a bit of a pain (136L tank in the gasser, 96L in the diesel) - so the range is pretty much the same.

EDIT - my diesel cost me 2 k more then the 6.2 gasser would have... no idea what the maintenance will be like - they're both pretty new.

[KMP44]

Originally Posted by Doering

Hey,

I was told the Diesel was 12K more and oil changes are crazy expensive. I would definitely consider that 4K price tag. Diesel's break down less often? I know they are great if you tow lots.

If you build a truck on Ford's website, the list price difference in the two is $8K. Whether a dealer might discount one more than other might vary, but I
don't think its common to find a $4K difference on 2 otherwise identical trucks. An optioned up Lariat 6.2 vs an XLT Powerstroke might be even less $4K difference.

But around here, diesel is $0.40 cents or so higher a gallon, so that negates a lot of the advantage of the better mileage. Oil changes are expensive with the diesel, and if you have major service after the powertrain warranty is up, it can run major $$.

And, the diesel engine is heavy - in the neighborhood of 600 pounds more than the 6.2, so the F-250 payload (depending on cab and configuration) is close to 3,000 pounds. Payload for an F-250 Powerstroke is more like 2400 pounds. So you get a ton of HP and Torque, but not much more payload than a 1/2 ton.

The diesel is a sweet option, but check out the Ford forums. There are plenty of happy 6.2 owners that tow. That 6.2 has been around a while and it has some nice advantages in lower cost, higher payload, lower maintenance.


I'm impatiently waiting for Ford to come out with the specs & pricing for the 2017 F-250. Was going to look for a new F-150 this winter, but decided to wait for the new Super Duty and give the 6.2 a hard look.

[leefl]

I have a 2016 F-250 gas, pulling an ultra-lite 5th wheel (7800 lb unladen, 9100 lb GVWR) and am happy with the setup.
No problems pulling the 5er so far, seems pretty stable. Gas mileage is generally in the 8-9 MPG range when towing (13 ish average when not towing).
Sure the diesel has more torque, and better mileage, but it's also $8K more up-front, and has a higher maintenance cost.

[jheacox1]

Originally Posted by leefl

I have a 2016 F-250 gas, pulling an ultra-lite 5th wheel (7800 lb unladen, 9100 lb GVWR) and am happy with the setup.
No problems pulling the 5er so far, seems pretty stable. Gas mileage is generally in the 8-9 MPG range when towing (13 ish average when not towing).
Sure the diesel has more torque, and better mileage, but it's also $8K more up-front, and has a higher maintenance cost.

Same here except I have a 2015 250 gasser SRW and I'm 8058 lb unladen. Last time I weighed I was just over 9000 lb fully loaded for a 2 week trip. The 5th wheel and my truck get along very well.

2015 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite 8281WS
2015 F250 Crew Cab

[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by jheacox1

Same here except I have a 2015 250 gasser SRW and I'm 8058 lb unladen. Last time I weighed I was just over 9000 lb fully loaded for a 2 week trip. The 5th wheel and my truck get along very well.

2015 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite 8281WS
2015 F250 Crew Cab

8k empty, and 9k loaded with the fifth hooked up?

[doc73]

Originally Posted by KMP44

If you build a truck on Ford's website, the list price difference in the two is $8K. Whether a dealer might discount one more than other might vary, but I
don't think its common to find a $4K difference on 2 otherwise identical trucks. An optioned up Lariat 6.2 vs an XLT Powerstroke might be even less $4K difference.

Different makes so I will shut up after this.. My LTZ was $3k over the cost of the same LTZ in gas. SO not that uncommon.

[jheacox1]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

8k empty, and 9k loaded with the fifth hooked up?

Yes sir, that's just the 5er weight. Sound heavy or light to you? No water in the FW tank.

2015 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite 8281WS
2015 F250 Crew Cab

[CWSWine]

Originally Posted by doc73

Different makes so I will shut up after this.. My LTZ was $3k over the cost of the same LTZ in gas. SO not that uncommon.

I just checked a 2010 Chevy 2500 HD used price on NADA and the diesel option adds 8100 to trade in allowance and 9100 to retail price. How does feel pay 3K and recouping 8.1K on trade in?

[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by jheacox1

Yes sir, that's just the 5er weight. Sound heavy or light to you? No water in the FW tank.

2015 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite 8281WS
2015 F250 Crew Cab

Light.
Hell, I jump in my truck and loose 300# payload!

[wrvond]

I don't know about the price difference up front, but I do know the diesel costs more in scheduled maintenance and such things as DEF and water filters. I just didn't want to mess with any of that, so I have the 6.2 gasser.
I'm very happy with the performance of the 6.2, but you should know that it isn't the torque monster the diesel is. While pulling my trailer, any incline will cause the transmission to drop down to 5th or even 4th to maintain speed.
Whichever engine you choose, the F250 Lariat is an awesome truck!

[davidjb]

I've had my 6.2 F350 for almost 2 years now. I tow my tt and cargo trailer about 1 thousand miles per year to a seasonal site. It has been flawless,thirsty yes but quite capable with a 11.400 gvw. My cousin has a diesel with a 10.000 gvw,kind of a waste because his payload stinks. So whether you choose gas or diesel read the sticker inside the driver door to see what the truck is capable of. It doesn't matter if it's a 250 or 350 their gvws' are all over the place

[Tfort]

I think diesel is a no brainier. The slight difference in maintenance is made up in the increased fuel economy. I get 18-21 mpg empty and about 12-13 towing and a friend of mine with an equally equipped gasser gets 12-14 mpg and 6-8 towing half the camper. I had a ranger before my diesel and when I switched the diesel was saving me money going back and forth to work because of the fuel mileage difference.


2000 F250 CC 4x4 7.3L diesel

15 Salem Hemisphere Lite356QB

[doc73]

Yeah, diesel is not for everyone nor is a 2500 / 250 or larger. OP, is there a reason you need or want a larger TV?

I chose mine because I could and planned for a larger trailer one day. Depending on your towing time might be happier with the F150 EB. They seem pretty strong and still keep the cushy ride and gas mileage. I see tons of Fords, Dodges... Chevys and whatever on the road. I am sure the 6.2 is fine if that is what you want then get it.

[Kenny kustom]

I towed with a 350 V10.
Gobs of power, but horrendous fuel economy.

Replaced a $15k truck with a $55k truck.

Could have bought a lot of fuel for that. The other side, a few major breakdowns, and then I have a $15k truck, that I just put $15k into.

I went with a new diesel, and when warranty is up, I'll get another.

[B and B]

I have 15 k on my 15 F 250. I have spent $16 on DEF total since June 1st. Pretty cheap. I bought a 5 year maintenance plan for $1300. Pretty cheap considering the Gas engine plan was the same.

Try Kitchener Ford. They had the same truck as mine except a 16 for 4 k more.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

I towed with a 350 V10.
Gobs of power, but horrendous fuel economy.

Replaced a $15k truck with a $55k truck.

Could have bought a lot of fuel for that. The other side, a few major breakdowns, and then I have a $15k truck, that I just put $15k into.

I went with a new diesel, and when warranty is up, I'll get another.

I agree Kenny. Makes some sense for sure.

[jheacox1]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

Light.
Hell, I jump in my truck and loose 300# payload!

Aaah, gotcha. I'm well within my trucks capacities. I can't remember what the exact axle weights/total truck weight was without looking at the paper but it was well under my gawr of 6100 lb rear, and my total gvwr of 10k, and my max payload of 2761. I'm just pushing 200lb. So me, the wife, 8 yr old, 17 year old (all 3 skinny as sticks) are like 500 lb total. I figure 200 lbs or so for gas and a cooler and the hitch for 100lb. So I'm at 800 lbs cargo plus the 1800 lb pin weight and that puts me right around 2600 lbs payload. Although I think some of that person cargo weight gets distributed to the front axle too right? Even if it doesn't I have a good 150 lbs or so to spare. Truck squats very little when hooked up. No need for bags, or overloads.
As far as the 5er weight goes my wife packs well for trips...she knows my limit on cargo back there is 1k and does her research on how much stuff weighs and does a real good job of spreading it out in the 5er.
And to think I was new to this whole 5er thing just last May. LOL. Thank God for this forum and all the helpful people in it. :-)