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Old 08-22-2014, 06:15 AM   #11
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What spring codes do you have?
Legally, you might be overweight according to the 8800 GVWR, but if optioned similar to mine, the one difference between it and a F-350 SRW is the taller rear axle blocks. This 8800 GVWR was evidently done to get under certain classifications for taxes/licensing in various states that do that, because everything else is equal on a 250 vs 350.

On my '01, I Have VB springs and the factory Camper package (overload springs and rear sway bar).

I know I'm over that 8800 GVWR, but under on axles and GCWR.

Like yours, my overloads don't touch when sitting still. These are pictures of my overloads and the scale report on that same day.

If you have a 7.3 in good shape, I'd say it's a keeper.

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Add 2 more adults to the weight that didn't go to the scales with us.



Your spring setup looks identical to mine.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:18 AM   #12
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I agree that you have plenty of truck for what you are towing & that engine will last over 250K miles if you treat 'er right... That 7.3 is a beast even in a 1 ton with a high-side dump bed, etc. Your truck was a popular choice for construction teams, landscapers, etc. & I think Ford went easy on the GCVW numbers because they know how these things get abused... IF you have the manual tranny, that could be the weak link, so put some thought into your shift points on hills, etc. and you should be fine.

IMO there is not a specific logic to how manufacturers calculate their tow ratings... My '11 Ram 2500 CC ST w/5.7 Hemi has a payload capacity of 3,000 but a tow rating of only 9,100 & GCVW of only 15,000. The following year the only change they made was to swap-out the 5 speed tranny for a 6 speed and they upped the tow capacity to 11,100 & GCVW to 17,000. I'm not towing in the mountains & my 5 speed tranny never overheats so IMO the 15,000 was a conservative number for that year.

In comparison, the trend of the new 1/2 tons is to push the tow ratings higher & higher and some folks won't realize how little truck they have until they are in a tight spot. Slightly overloading your 3/4 ton with a GCVW of 15,000 isn't placing anyone in danger vs. overloading a 1/2 ton... As noted, the worst you can do is burn through a tranny & if you haven't done that already, you are probably good to go...
Have the Auto Trans and it always runs around 190 when towing. I use Amsoil in and in the engine too.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:22 AM   #13
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I find Rhino's comment interesting as well. The truck manufacturers keep going for more and more, and the trailer manufacturers keep trying to get lighter and lighter. They're passing each other up going opposite directions I reckon.
I know what you mean. My Friend has a 2011 F250 gas burner and his GVWR is like 10600# Spring package and basically everything else looks the same as mine at least underneath.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:29 AM   #14
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Thanks to everyone for the posts. Like I said in the OP the truck does a great job and runs perfect. I just would like the added security of the dually in max payload and in the event of a blowout. Besides thinking along the lines of new F350 I have also been looking at used ones but, only the one's with a 7.3 so finding one in good shape is hard.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:30 AM   #15
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Have the Auto Trans and it always runs around 190 when towing. I use Amsoil in and in the engine too.
If you haven't already done it, the 26 or 31 row transmission cooler from a 6.0 truck is an easy swap and will drop those temps. I generally run 50-60deg over ambient unloaded and 60-80 when loaded with the TT with the weight like in my scale slip.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:51 AM   #16
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If you haven't already done it, the 26 or 31 row transmission cooler from a 6.0 truck is an easy swap and will drop those temps. I generally run 50-60deg over ambient unloaded and 60-80 when loaded with the TT with the weight like in my scale slip.
I was looking at this:
Amazon.com: Tru-Cool Max LPD47391 47391 Low Pressure Drop Transmission Oil Cooler: Automotive

I was talking with my mechanic who said that the temps I am running are good and that running it too cool is not good for it either. I reckon everyone has any opinion on this. From reading the diesel forums it seems like as long as you keep it under about 230 you are good.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:55 AM   #17
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The 2003 7.3 is the Holy Grail of that motor! I regret selling mine years ago.... Now you cannot find them in in good shape and when you do, they bring good $. Do the easy tranny cooler swap and keep rocking that bad boy is my vote!

I've owned most every diesel out there except the PSD 6.4 and 6.7. After my 07 6.0 wows, I went over and tried the Cummins 5.9, 6.7 and also the LMM and LML duramax trucks. They all are good. The Chevys to me have the most comfortable seats, then the ford, then the dodges. The milage on all the trucks have come down over the years but when it comes to the newer trucks that regen, I give the edge to the urea trucks. The 1st gen regen rucks used extra diesel to burn off the soot and they ran hot. Example, my LMM Duramax always ran in the 190s unloaded and sometimes as high as 220 towing. My new LML Duramax runs in the 180s unloaded and never has gone above 195 towing a combined weight of 19,410 pounds.

This is the weight slip minus my co driver who weighs 190:


So if you go new PSD then the 6.7 is the choice but you do have a gem.

If you haven't done it, getting a quality tuner and using the tow tunes wakes the truck up nicely and increases the tranny line pressures to reduce the wear on the clutches and improves the fuel economy loaded and unloaded.
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I have a 2002 F250 7.3L, I wouldn't sell/trade my truck for a new one. I sure do like the new trucks, they are great lookin, great running trucks, but sure is a lot of new emissions items to be a problem. Having said that, you have to do what's best for you in your situation, my personal experience is the 7.3L is enough for what I wanna do!


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Old 08-22-2014, 08:55 AM   #19
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I have a 2002 F250 7.3L, I wouldn't sell/trade my truck for a new one. I sure do like the new trucks, they are great lookin, great running trucks, but sure is a lot of new emissions items to be a problem. Having said that, you have to do what's best for you in your situation, my personal experience is the 7.3L is enough for what I wanna do!


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I think some of desire is all the new creature comforts. My 2003's interior is really good shape and so is the exterior except for a few small dents and scratches. But the bells and whistles are very tempting.
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I think some of desire is all the new creature comforts. My 2003's interior is really good shape and so is the exterior except for a few small dents and scratches. But the bells and whistles are very tempting.
I can understand that. I have a '13 Explorer Limited and it's got a lot of the bells and whistles. Heated and cooled seats. MyFord Touch with Nav and backup camera. Moon roof. Dual zone auto Heat/AC. Blind spot notifications. The list goes on.

Now, on my truck, in it's day, it was pretty optioned out. I've got heated but not cooled seats... Just recovered them with new leather. I have installed a new stereo with 7" touch screen with nav and back up camera.

I also added a Ford AIS intake, MBRP 4" exhaust and PHP tunes.

To me, the new Super Duty trucks, while updated, are just not changed enough for me to jump on. The 2016 or 17 that they are testing looks to maybe be something new with aluminum biody and a larger cab.


If you do decide to get new, do a private party sale. It will sell quick.
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