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Old 01-16-2018, 09:29 PM   #1
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Ram trucks and Jeep brands. I wonder if Fiat is going to sell off these two brands.
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Chrysler Dodge was owned by Mercedes back when I bought one of my Jeep Wranglers. Did that make it a Mercedes? Ah, no. And Ram is no more a Fiat than my Jeep is a Mercedes Unimog.
I don't know why folks make this Fiat - Chrysler connection such a big deal.
The only reason I drive a Ford truck and not a Dodge is because the Gov buyout that they did with GM and Chrysler still bugs me.
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The only reason I drive a Ford truck and not a Dodge is because the Gov buyout that they did with GM and Chrysler still bugs me.
Ford got bailout money as well. If ford didn't get it they were likely heading for bankruptcy as well.
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Chrysler Dodge was owned by Mercedes back when I bought one of my Jeep Wranglers. Did that make it a Mercedes? Ah, no. And Ram is no more a Fiat than my Jeep is a Mercedes Unimog.
I don't know why folks make this Fiat - Chrysler connection such a big deal.
The only reason I drive a Ford truck and not a Dodge is because the Gov buyout that they did with GM and Chrysler still bugs me.


Ford received 5.9 Billion in 2009 from the government... although it was a loan to retool its manufacturing plant itís was still a bail out. If they did not get the money they too would have been broke.
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Don't forget bailout money was all repaid with interest. Gov made.money on these deals.
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Ram trucks and Jeep brands. I wonder if Fiat is going to sell off these two brands.
Why would they sell? Ram truck sales are on fire, surpassing Chevy truck sales many months. And they just announced the redesigned 2019, arguably the most technolgically advanced truck on the market and a likely candidate for Truck of the Year.
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Chrysler Dodge was owned by Mercedes back when I bought one of my Jeep Wranglers. Did that make it a Mercedes? Ah, no. And Ram is no more a Fiat than my Jeep is a Mercedes Unimog.
I don't know why folks make this Fiat - Chrysler connection such a big deal.
The only reason I drive a Ford truck and not a Dodge is because the Gov buyout that they did with GM and Chrysler still bugs me.
I make the connection, because it's a connection. I realize Ram owners hate admitting it. I don't know why. I have owned Toyota's (once) and Nissans (Once). But when Japan won't buy our rice, why should I buy their cars? I make money (not much) on rice farming. But now, if there is an equivalent choice, I don't want to send my money to Italy. I don't want to own a Ferrari, either. I don't care how good either Ferrair or Ram is, I don't want one.

All those semi-trucks that we fight on the road? The ones thinking they are the American Cowboy and are today's Commerce? 80% (I made that up) of them are carrying some kind of Chinese made b/s to a Walmart in Dubuque, which just hurts American jobs. Then when they inch over and try to squeeze me off the road (oops!!), or double up at 54 mph, or blow by me at 90 mph, I think about all that. I know, we gotta have 'em. And I know it would have been earth shaking prescience to know this in the 50's, but they SHOULD have their own interstate system, because 80K lbs is destroying ours.

But at least they ain't Fiats! LOL

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Everyone of those commercial trucks pays a BIG road use tax every year depending on the mileage they drive in each state. Complain to your government for not putting that money back into fixing the roads the trucks beat up. After all, that's what the money is supposed to be for. I drive a big truck somewhat locally usually using 3 states to do business. I have to keep track of the mileage I drive and record it on paperwork daily for just that reason. And doubling up on the highway? That's usually on a hill or because they got forced into the left lane because some car doesn't know what merge/yield means when entering a highway. Small vehicles aren't blameless in how big trucks operate on the roads.

And I own a Ram, I couldn't care less if they're owned by Fiat, it's still a great truck. You think all the parts on your GM product are made in the USA? Wishful thinking.
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Why would they sell? Ram truck sales are on fire, surpassing Chevy truck sales many months. And they just announced the redesigned 2019, arguably the most technolgically advanced truck on the market and a likely candidate for Truck of the Year.
They are still way less than GM trucks as a whole.
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