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Old 07-02-2019, 07:44 AM   #1
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First fifth wheel tow

Brought our new RV home Saturday. This weights 11,575 dry so I'm rough guessing about 11,800 or so +/- with full propane tanks and batteries.
I noticed what many had said, very stable, no sway even with a little wind. I did notice slight chucking which I suppose is expected. I purchased a B&W Companion hitch, research shows that to be a pretty decent hitch.

Truck did well. very noticable difference between towing 9.5 / 10K vs this camper, and also more surface area up high catching wind. I was in pretty hilly terrain and was able to pull in 5th at 65 and about 2200 RPMS.. I did upshift to 6th just for giggles and it pulled level fine and very minor hills fine, but I think I'll use 5th 95% of the time to reduce wear on clutch and keep the EGTS down. It seemed happy there.

I have several hundred feet of wooded driveway to back down at home, and wit the traditional pull trailer It was never an issue. With this one it took me 40 minutes to get down and parked. The overall length is only 2 feet more, but the pivot point and having trees against the driveway really kept me from getting lined up good.. I'll cut some trees back to help for future. It's just different and IM sure Ill get used to it quickly. I didnt measure the sag, but it sagged a few inches. I have a payload of about 4200. So some tweaks here and there I think i'm good.
I love having the 8' bed I have all kinds of turning radius.
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Congrats on the new 5th wheel you have a nice looking setup
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The 5er's do back up very different than the pull behind trailer. The reason is the pivot point is over the rear axle in most case or close to it. The trailer will start to turn very slowly but once it gets going the trailer will move much faster. This takes practice and practice to get the feel of the trailer and backing up. This will come to you in time just hang in there.
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Congrats on the new 5th wheel you have a nice looking setup
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The 5er's do back up very different than the pull behind trailer. The reason is the pivot point is over the rear axle in most case or close to it. The trailer will start to turn very slowly but once it gets going the trailer will move much faster. This takes practice and practice to get the feel of the trailer and backing up. This will come to you in time just hang in there.
Yes this is exactly what I noticed. Pretty slow to initiate turning but once engaged it turns quickly. I have a gentle curve about 1/2 down my wooded driveway towards where I park it and to get it to trun right I had the truck in the woods against the trees.. I know I need to start turning sooner now.
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Nice outfit and you did great backing. You do have more rear sag than I like, could be the picture.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:17 PM   #7
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Nice outfit and you did great backing. You do have more rear sag than I like, could be the picture.
I need to measure the sag, I dont think its as bad as it looks, that shadow on the wheel well plays tricks. It felt real good on the road. Im just shy of 4200 payload. I would add bags if absolutely necessary but I think Ill be o.k.
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We were shocked at the feel of a Ram diesel towing a fiver compared to a 27í boat trailer.

No stress! The biggest danger is dumb drivers who do not know how to merge on a highway. We do not change lanes quick.
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I need to measure the sag, I dont think its as bad as it looks, that shadow on the wheel well plays tricks. It felt real good on the road. Im just shy of 4200 payload. I would add bags if absolutely necessary but I think Ill be o.k.
One thing to consider regarding the "Sag" or "Squat". By letting the rear end drop so low it will raise the level of you headlights and blind oncoming drivers at night.

IMHO a set of air bags to eliminate that is in order.
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I love having the 8' bed I have all kinds of turning radius.
Yes, you definitely do!
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One thing to consider regarding the "Sag" or "Squat". By letting the rear end drop so low it will raise the level of you headlights and blind oncoming drivers at night.

IMHO a set of air bags to eliminate that is in order.
X2- bags will help level, stabilize, and increase your comfort and well.
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First fifth wheel tow

I used timbrens to level the truck and eliminate the sag/headlight aim issue noted above.

The one below is for my truck. Very happy with them and easy install too. For me the most important thing is that they are a passive system.

Timbren DR3500CA Suspension Enhancement System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TNBT16..._079gDb6QXKDTR
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Brought our new RV home Saturday. This weights 11,575 dry so I'm rough guessing about 11,800 or so +/- with full propane tanks and batteries.
I noticed what many had said, very stable, no sway even with a little wind. I did notice slight chucking which I suppose is expected. I purchased a B&W Companion hitch, research shows that to be a pretty decent hitch.

Truck did well. very noticable difference between towing 9.5 / 10K vs this camper, and also more surface area up high catching wind. I was in pretty hilly terrain and was able to pull in 5th at 65 and about 2200 RPMS.. I did upshift to 6th just for giggles and it pulled level fine and very minor hills fine, but I think I'll use 5th 95% of the time to reduce wear on clutch and keep the EGTS down. It seemed happy there.

I have several hundred feet of wooded driveway to back down at home, and wit the traditional pull trailer It was never an issue. With this one it took me 40 minutes to get down and parked. The overall length is only 2 feet more, but the pivot point and having trees against the driveway really kept me from getting lined up good.. I'll cut some trees back to help for future. It's just different and IM sure Ill get used to it quickly. I didnt measure the sag, but it sagged a few inches. I have a payload of about 4200. So some tweaks here and there I think i'm good.
I love having the 8' bed I have all kinds of turning radius.


Look into Timbrens. Google them or YouTube them. Friends told me about them. They really do work. Hope this helps
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ronheater70 - welcome to the new world of 5th wheel towing. DW and I finally agreed to upgrade to a 35-foot Cardinal 5th wheel a few years ago. We are fortunate to have just enough space in our driveway to park the trailer behind our front gate, but there is less than 8-inches of clearance on each side between the neighbor's block wall and our brick chimney. It took me many tries before I figured out precisely where to turn to enter our driveway while attempting to back into our spot. I am still learning, but so far no damage to trailer or gates/chimney, or block wall.

Backing in to our driveway is still the most stressful part of any RV trip we make. You are fortunate to have lots of room. Enjoy your new rig!!
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Welcome and congrats on the new rig. It looks great. I think everyone else has said it all, but I will add, it does seem to be squatting a bit too much. I would go for the air bags, only because I have experience with those. You can adjust them as needed, and with a wireless remote compressor, you can do it on the fly. It will definitely help with the squat, and the bounce.
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It really tows well, I'll measure it when Im hooked next. I'll probably leave it alone for this season as because of big full extended family vacation (non rv related), we will probably only get it out one more time, possibly two and those are close by. It really is a solid feel though.
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ronheater70 - welcome to the new world of 5th wheel towing. DW and I finally agreed to upgrade to a 35-foot Cardinal 5th wheel a few years ago. We are fortunate to have just enough space in our driveway to park the trailer behind our front gate, but there is less than 8-inches of clearance on each side between the neighbor's block wall and our brick chimney. It took me many tries before I figured out precisely where to turn to enter our driveway while attempting to back into our spot. I am still learning, but so far no damage to trailer or gates/chimney, or block wall.

Backing in to our driveway is still the most stressful part of any RV trip we make. You are fortunate to have lots of room. Enjoy your new rig!!
Thank you! Yea I built a small retaining wall at the back of our concrete pad to extend it just a bit. Glad I'm not as close as you!
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We were shocked at the feel of a Ram diesel towing a fiver compared to a 27í boat trailer.

No stress! The biggest danger is dumb drivers who do not know how to merge on a highway. We do not change lanes quick.
I stopped riding in the right lane for that very reason. If people don't like me in the middle lane they can pass me.
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One thing to consider regarding the "Sag" or "Squat". By letting the rear end drop so low it will raise the level of you headlights and blind oncoming drivers at night.

IMHO a set of air bags to eliminate that is in order.
So far all of our trips are 1-6 hours away..Always leave early in the morning and haven't traveled at night thus far over the last 3 years. However It's certainly something to consider for future trips.
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Nice set up, long bed makes all the difference.


Your sag is fine. I wouldn't put airbags - it will make your 5ver ride even more nose-high than it is right now.



Is your BW hitch on its lowest setting?
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