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Old 09-07-2015, 09:00 PM   #1
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First post. Looking for truck advice.

My family is looking to get into camping. We have selected a series of campers based on the fact it will be left for some periods at my families camp and we plan on spending weeks/ up to a month as I can with vacation in it with our now 3 kids, maybe more in the future.

We are looking at Cherokee models 294BH, 304BH, and 304BS.
They all have a GVWR of 9985lbs. Tounge weight between 835 and 1043lbs. All 78" tall.

I'm starting the search for a tow vehicle. We really won't need it for another year as we are leaving it in one spot all next year and will only move it at end of year. I can borrow a truck for the one time move. The following year we plan on a one month tour if you will.

I like fords generally speaking and will be buying used.
An F-150 crew cab 6.5' bed with Eco boost and max tow package is one option and seems like a good option. 10.5k tow.

I've seen an f-350 with the 6.2 l I like, cc sb. But fuel economy etc when not towing is my thoughts.

I've also kicked around a 2014 dodge cc sb with 6.4L. Overkill.

08-10 v-10?

I guess I'm trying to find out if eco boost is not enough.

Just trying to get some perspective for a trailer of this size. I've towed 4-place snowmobile enclosed trailers and had a 25' Malibu wake setter on a tandem axle trailer so I am familiar with towing, just not this length 36-37'

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Old 09-07-2015, 09:17 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum! You will probably gets lots of opinions, but mine would be to go with a 3/4 ton as my first choice. Virtually all late model trucks will have enough power, but a 30 ft trailer weighing nearly 10K is a big load. Add rough roads, high winds and passing semi trucks and I would rather have the beef of a 3/4-1 ton.


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Old 09-07-2015, 09:17 PM   #3
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Towing a Boat is NOT like towing a TT! Same goes for 4 place enclosed Snowmobile trailer! Your in the Big Time now! Youroo!!
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:39 PM   #4
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Hello and welcome to the forum. Per the forest river website, the 294BH has a GVWR or 9985, the 304BH has a GVWR of 11175, and the 304BS has a GVWR of 11060. Looking at this you are looking at a one ton (3500/350) pick up. Be aware that not all are created equal. These are heavy TT with heavy tongue weights. When I was looking at my Sabre I thought about getting the sabre TT with an 11000 lb GVWR. When I truck hunted, I had a hard time finding a truck with a hitch rated high enough (hitch not payload). I learned the Chevy long bed had a higher hitch rating than the Chevy short bed.

Now looking at the dry weights on these 3 trailers, you will likely be near GVWR when fully loaded, ready to travel on the 294BH. Given an ideal TW of 13-15% of the loaded TT, you are looking at a potential loaded tongue weight of 1300-1500 lbs! On the other two, you will not likely be loaded to max. You will likely be closer to 9500-10000 lbs loaded on those two as well, so the tongue weights will probably close on all 3 TT. This is too much to ask of a half ton, even if it is the famed ecoboost. I would stick to the larger trucks. Be aware the V10 is a gas guzzler. My '14 Chevy diesel does much bettering fuel than the v10 and I know it does much better than my old f250 psd. I'm getting 16-17 mpg around town and 13 mpg towing through the mountains. As stated above you will get lots of differing opinions here, this is my 2 after having been in the situation of towing too much TT for not enough TV down a mountain. Never again.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:03 AM   #5
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Wow. Samsonite. I was way off.

Asquared, thanks a lot for double checking my numbers.

I pulled those off the 2015/2016 brochure. I thought when we had looked at the 304BS that I had seen on the actual weight tag different numbers, but that got lost in the truck thoughts.

I know we are leaning towards the BS due to the double slid bunkhouse. Like I said, starting with the three littles and the dog, and who knows who else comes along, the larger their space area is good as we stay at camp for a week plus and they need some down time.

I will have to head to the Forrest river website and get some real numbers. But almost 2k lbs wrong on the brochure. Wow. Hope they are better on quality control when building.

Any other advice for something along the lines of the 304BS? I really don't want to go dually. Maybe I do need a diesel.

Thanks again,

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Old 09-08-2015, 04:42 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by MattyMMA View Post
I will have to head to the Forrest river website and get some real numbers.
the website numbers probably won't be any more accurate.
remember, brochure/website numbers are for a stripped-down version of the trailers. only the GVWR will be correct.

the best "real" numbers source, other than weighing at a scale, is the yellow factory weight sticker on each trailer.
that's what it weighed when it left the factory.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:16 AM   #7
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I'll take a shot at it.

Of course a 14 Chevy diesel will get better fuel economy than a V10.

The OP stated used.
Same boat I was in.
I wanted used. I ended up with an 2008 F350 crew with a V10.
Into it for about 12k. ( cdn)

It's not my daily, and if it breaks down, it won't be thousands of dollars in repairs. Sure, it gets 7mpg towing. So what. I could replace the whole engine, cheaper than doing injectors on a 6.0L.
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:09 PM   #8
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Having a F150 with Ecoboost I know from experience it'll do the job as far as pulling. However I believe the comfort level as far as the ride would be better in a 3/4 Ton. Plus that'll give you the option of upgrading in RV size down rhe road without having to purchase a different truck.
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:17 PM   #9
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Also when you get into the longer lengths the more sway you get so the need for WDH. Later RJD
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:38 PM   #10
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My friend, had a 2012 f150, the said it was rated to tow, 11,500. It ran hot going up bear tooth parkway and smoked the breaks coming down he was pulling 5,500. I pulled @ 10,200 # camper to Yellowstone and another trip to the Grand Canyon with a 2012 Toyota Tundra . Did fine, got 8 miles to the gallon, changed this year to a 3500 ram diesel. This is a totally different ballgame. My point is, you can't have to much truck.

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