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04-04-2012, 11:20 PM
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First tow with Ecoboost
This is a much more relaxed tow than my previous 5.4L 4-speed F150. I like to tow in overdrive if at all possible. The 5.4 would pull overdrive but it didn't have much reserve capacity; not frequent shifting but it didn't take much of a grade to unlock the torque converter. The Eco held 6th gear and stayed locked for the whole trip from the hobby farm to my house; about 60 miles. My 5.4 would unlock in numerous places along that same route. Used cruise control because it was too easy to start speeding up otherwise. As someone else posted, I found myself approaching 70 mph without realizing it. Quieter and more stable; perhaps because of the extra payload capacity of Max Tow and the LT tires. On a fairly flat 60 miles with a 7 to 10 mph cross-wind, I averaged 11.5 mph. That was at 62 mph and pulling about a 5,000 lb Surveyor. Starting on a 3,000 mile towing trip Saturday. Anything over 10 mpg will be a bonus.
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04-05-2012, 05:05 AM
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Acadianbob ..if posssible let us know how the long trip goes..I also own a 5.4 F150 and thinking of switching to either a F250 or a well equpped F150 with ecoboost..and... do you have the heavy duty payload pkg...?? along with the max tow pkg ??
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04-05-2012, 08:27 AM
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I will post results of the long trip. That will be the true story.
I do not have HD payload; just Max Tow. So my GVW is 7,700; payload 2,000.
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04-05-2012, 09:58 AM
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I could be wrong...But I thought that the Max Tow package included the Max Payload options too. 2,000 lb payload sounds like it has the max payload option to me.
At least when I custom built my truck there was not a seperate option for Max payload.
Does anyone know for sure ?
Bean
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04-05-2012, 10:37 AM
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Max Tow includes max payload package but the truck configuration has a big effect on towing/payload. 4x4,4x2,supercrew,regular cab etc. Heres a listing I found
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/
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04-05-2012, 10:43 AM
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There is also a HD payload package that comes with 7-lug wheels, and until '12 was only available on SuperCab models with the 8' bed. For '12, you can get it on SuperCrew models with the 6.5' bed. It gives several hundred more pounds of payload.
The Max Tow does NOT come with this package.
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04-05-2012, 10:45 AM
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Ahh ok axles are different then for sure I stand corrected
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04-05-2012, 11:33 AM
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Please remember that your trailer tires are only rated for a max of 65MPH if they are ST tires.
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04-05-2012, 11:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donn
Please remember that your trailer tires are only rated for a max of 65MPH if they are ST tires.
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Yes, many are not aware of that. In my case, I have Kumho 857s LR D that are rated for 99 mph. But I wouldn't tow over 65 in any case anyhow. 
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04-05-2012, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFM-jr
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Well, they are 2 different things. Max Tow does not include HD Payload but it does increase payload by about 350 lbs. HD Payload includes Max Tow and the increase in payload is quite a bit higher than what I have.
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04-05-2012, 01:09 PM
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i just returned from a local FORD dealer... And did a "build"... mine would be a Crew Cab XLT..6 1/2 foot box..XLT ...4x4...3.73 LIMITED SLIP... Heavy duty PAYLOAD PKG....MAX TOWING PKG...(2 SEPERATE THINGS) !!! 3.5 ECOBOOST ENGINE..8,200 GVWR...507A EQUIPMENT PKG...36 GAL FUEL TANK...XLT CONVENICE PKG...TAILGATE STEP...TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER...17" ..7 LUG ALUMINUM WHEELS ..LOWER 2 TONE PAINT..LT245 BSW A-T TIRES...STERLING GREY/INGOT SIVER....ADJUSTABLE PEDALS...SYNC SYSTEM..PWR DRIVERS SEAT...FULL RUBBER FLOOR MATS..$38,304.48
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04-05-2012, 01:18 PM
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Only thing I would recommend is the back-up camera.
I thought I would only use it to hitch up the camper, but now I'd be lost without it.
You can't see ANYTHING behind the truck when you are backing up. The camera really is a great safety device.
Without the NAV system the camera image appears on the left side of the rear-view mirror (which I prefer).
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04-05-2012, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bean
I could be wrong...But I thought that the Max Tow package included the Max Payload options too. 2,000 lb payload sounds like it has the max payload option to me.
At least when I custom built my truck there was not a seperate option for Max payload.
Does anyone know for sure ?
Bean
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Its both...Heavy duty payload pkg...and....Max towing pkg
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04-05-2012, 04:32 PM
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Surely you guys have seen the Ecoboost torture test series of video's narrated by Mike Rowe right? That engine is tough as nails
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04-05-2012, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dretired
i just returned from a local FORD dealer... And did a "build"... mine would be a Crew Cab XLT..6 1/2 foot box..XLT ...4x4...3.73 LIMITED SLIP... Heavy duty PAYLOAD PKG....MAX TOWING PKG...(2 SEPERATE THINGS) !!! 3.5 ECOBOOST ENGINE..8,200 GVWR...507A EQUIPMENT PKG...36 GAL FUEL TANK...XLT CONVENICE PKG...TAILGATE STEP...TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER...17" ..7 LUG ALUMINUM WHEELS ..LOWER 2 TONE PAINT..LT245 BSW A-T TIRES...STERLING GREY/INGOT SIVER....ADJUSTABLE PEDALS...SYNC SYSTEM..PWR DRIVERS SEAT...FULL RUBBER FLOOR MATS..$38,304.48
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That's as capable as you can make it!! 
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04-05-2012, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bean
You can't see ANYTHING behind the truck when you are backing up. The camera really is a great safety device.
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Yeah! Like a Miata or something!! 
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04-07-2012, 09:10 PM
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9.3 mpg into the wind first tank. 11.5 with the wind second tank. Integrated brake controller vastly superior to Prodigy. Never exceeded 2,000 rpm all day long. Motors up most grades in sixth. Some a downshift to fifth. So easy that I slept some while my wife took a turn at the wheel. No worries!
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04-07-2012, 09:47 PM
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I pulled with my 2011 yesterday and today. The power was great. I can def tell that the big a-- TT is back there but she pulls great, but my mpg was 8 there and back. Into a 30 mph head wind. Scale said the trailer was 6700lbs. Trans temp only hit 210 once and that was in traffic.
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04-08-2012, 05:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
9.3 mpg into the wind first tank. 11.5 with the wind second tank. Integrated brake controller vastly superior to Prodigy. Never exceeded 2,000 rpm all day long. Motors up most grades in sixth. Some a downshift to fifth. So easy that I slept some while my wife took a turn at the wheel. No worries!
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Thanks for the up dates..are you towing with the "Tow/Haul Mode" On ?? And... are you using cruise control at all ??
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04-08-2012, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dretired
i just returned from a local FORD dealer... And did a "build"... mine would be a Crew Cab XLT..6 1/2 foot box..XLT ...4x4...3.73 LIMITED SLIP... Heavy duty PAYLOAD PKG....MAX TOWING PKG...(2 SEPERATE THINGS) !!! 3.5 ECOBOOST ENGINE..8,200 GVWR...507A EQUIPMENT PKG...36 GAL FUEL TANK...XLT CONVENICE PKG...TAILGATE STEP...TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER...17" ..7 LUG ALUMINUM WHEELS ..LOWER 2 TONE PAINT..LT245 BSW A-T TIRES...STERLING GREY/INGOT SIVER....ADJUSTABLE PEDALS...SYNC SYSTEM..PWR DRIVERS SEAT...FULL RUBBER FLOOR MATS..$38,304.48
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Is 38k MSRP?
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