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Old 06-11-2015, 08:59 AM   #11
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This is kinda of stupid question, but when you guy's with the new truck are talking about breaking, are you just using your toe haul engaged or is there something new that they have came out with. Can someone PLEASE give me an idea of what this is? and how it works.
The reference is to the engine brake on the diesel. Works in both Tow/haul mode and without it.

I was the same way on our first trip after upgrading from a 2500 gasser to a 2500 diesel The drive to and from the destination actually became fun and relaxing. No more listening to conitnuous downshifting and wondering if I would have braking issues in and emergency. I expected a change, but not the amount of change. My 2500 gasser got me there and back but not with the enjoyment of the diesel.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:13 AM   #12
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Engine braking is like the big rigs Jake brake. On the new Ram's you can set it to engine brake when you let off the gas pedal (always on) or in automatic mode and the engine brake will engage when you step on the brake pedal or you can turn it off altogether which is good if not towing. With the engine brake on there isn't any coasting of your truck when in the on mode because the engine brake kicks in every time you let off the throttle pedal. So being able to turn it off is a good thing when not towing and put it in automatic so it only engages when you apply the brakes. It uses the engine back pressure to slow the truck and your load down.
Sorry that's about the best I can explain it.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:59 AM   #13
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The reference is to the engine brake on the diesel. Works in both Tow/haul mode and without it.

I was the same way on our first trip after upgrading from a 2500 gasser to a 2500 diesel The drive to and from the destination actually became fun and relaxing. No more listening to conitnuous downshifting and wondering if I would have braking issues in and emergency. I expected a change, but not the amount of change. My 2500 gasser got me there and back but not with the enjoyment of the diesel.
I did not have a problem with the Eco Boost downshifting and whining, it did not do that like the Triton 5.4 2009 I had prior to the Eco-Boost. I know the GM seem to whine more but maybe that has to do with rear diff and shift points and poor torque with the Gas Engine.

The F 150 Eco has its place in the towing world. I was at its limit and was able to make the change for many factors including dealer promotions and excellent resale on my existing truck.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:00 AM   #14
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^^^^you are right and wrong with your explaination. One post above.

Big rigs do have an engine brake, or "jake brake". The way an engine brake works is they open the exhaust valve during the compression stroke removing all the force in the cylinder.

Our trucks have an exhaust brake, or "turbo brake". The veins, or "fins", on our turbos move. When the exhaust brake is engaged it closes the veins in the turbo, which causes exhaust back pressure in the engine.


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Old 06-11-2015, 11:01 AM   #15
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It's not diesel vs. gas that is the difference, it is the F150 vs. the F250. I have had both trucks and there is no comparison for stability on the road.


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Old 06-11-2015, 01:07 PM   #16
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Never owned the Eco Boost and they are certainly beautiful trucks. Saying that my 1999 F250 7.3 with 162000 miles on it is all I need. Love it.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:24 PM   #17
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F250 PSD in my option tops! I had 454 dulley GMC / Chevys and nothing had the torque like the FORD.
MY KIDS LAUGH at me since always a gmc guy. All I can say is I have changed to the DARK side and happy to do it.
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Old 06-11-2015, 02:16 PM   #18
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the gas/diesel debate will never end, but when people cross over to the diesel side, they realize they had always been doing it wrong before.
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Old 06-11-2015, 02:50 PM   #19
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I love my Powerstroke when I'm going down a steep hill in the Rockies. I never tow without being in "Towhaul",,,,,and touching the brake feeling the engine kick in with that loud whine was disconcerting the first time I heard it,,,,but then it was explained to me what was going on. I wouldn't be comfortable without it anymore,,,,especially on passes like Monarch Pass or Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:20 PM   #20
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I just started towing with my '15 F250 PS too and agree, the difference from a 1500 truck is amazing. My trailer (WnP 30WLA) is in the 9500-9800 lb range and the thing just chugs along at 1500 rpm on the interstate at 60-65 mph. No more 2-3 downshifts to speed up, just a little gas and 800+ ft lb of torque handles it with no downshifts. I couldn't be happier with the truck.

I use tow/haul all the time, and only use the engine braking when driving in heavy traffic around town.
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