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03-01-2015, 04:55 PM
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Fiver too high front, how to lower?
Hello,
We have 2009 Chevy, 2500HD, 2 wheel drive. Fiver is 2008 Cardinal with "Airborne brand air bag/shock hitch". The Huskey hitch is as low as it will go and appears fiver Airborne is also as low as it will go, however front of the fiver is 3 inch higher than the rear of the trailer when hitched up and ready to go.
Question 1: Is this bad, cause irregular trailer tire wear etc.?
Question 2: How can we get the truck/front of trailer near level?
Remove leaf springs? The TV is not used for heavy hauling except for the fiver.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
ThanYou,
Wanderer
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03-01-2015, 05:12 PM
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when you say hitch on 5th wheel is as low as it will go, do you mean its set as high up (closest to 5th wheel) as possible?
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03-01-2015, 05:18 PM
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Yes Dave,
That's correct, there are adjustment holes; more bolt holes, however those would act to raise the fiver.
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2008 Cardinal 30RK fiver.
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2009- 42 days; 2010-40 days, 2011- 40 days. 2012- 30 days,
2013- 14 days, 2014- 21 days, 2015- 42 days
2016-17 days, 2017-zero days
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03-01-2015, 05:19 PM
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I had the same issue with my last rig. My hitch was as low as it could go and my pinbox was all the way up to the top holes. I added the Correct Track 2 system to the trailer. It is designed to align your axles but as a side effect gives you two inches of lift. Got me level and would probably get you pretty close too.
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03-01-2015, 05:25 PM
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I had a lift kit installd on Goshen last summer. Retail is about $250 for the kit. I have 2.5 inches of lift. I tow level now. I had one more bolt hole to go on the reese but I would run out of trailer to bed clearance. I camp in Provincial Parks with gravel sites and uneven roads.
I did measure a 15 degree temperature difference between front and back axle. Both are the same now and the trailer is level.
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03-01-2015, 05:27 PM
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like "taken" said, installing the Correct Track system will give it some lift. Also gives a way to align trailer axles if necessary
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03-01-2015, 05:42 PM
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I would seriously consider trying to lower the truck itself. IMO, the 2500 sits too high even unloaded.
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03-01-2015, 05:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
I would seriously consider trying to lower the truck itself. IMO, the 2500 sits too high even unloaded.
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I hear you. You should see the back of my 350 SRW. Looks like it's taking flight. On the Fords, you can swap the size spacer blocks under the rear springs to raise or lower ride height. Not sure about GM though?
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03-01-2015, 05:50 PM
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My 1/2T was 1-1/2" higher in the rear when new, I made longer rear spring shackles and now it sits level unloaded and with the "illegal 5er" on it.
Don't understand why 3/4T's have to sit so high all the way around.
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03-01-2015, 06:04 PM
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Bigger is better these days. Or at least it sells more trucks...
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03-01-2015, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
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Bigger is better these days. Or at least it sells more trucks...
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Not talking size, just sitting high.
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03-01-2015, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
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Not talking size, just sitting high.
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Well, I was referring to all dimensions when I said bigger. They are bigger, higher and wider than ever before.
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03-01-2015, 06:23 PM
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3/4 and 1 ton trucks have always sat high in the rear. I'm guessing to allow for travel when loaded. Mine sits high empty, but perfectly level with 5th wheel on it.
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03-01-2015, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davel1971
3/4 and 1 ton trucks have always sat high in the rear. I'm guessing to allow for travel when loaded. Mine sits high empty, but perfectly level with 5th wheel on it.
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1/2T's do too, and IMHO look goofy. I've leveled all 4 I've had. Don't even like cars that are high in the rear. Getting ready to figure out how to lower TOWTA's old junker in the rear.
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03-01-2015, 06:52 PM
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I've seen more than a couple 1/2 tons that sit higher than my 3/4.
My trailer sits high in the nose.
No wish or need to lower the truck so a lift kit for the trailer is in order.
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03-01-2015, 07:01 PM
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Mine is level loaded too. My previous 250 was level unloaded and squatted when loaded though due to the 2" shorter blocks and lack of overload springs.
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03-01-2015, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
My 1/2T was 1-1/2" higher in the rear when new, I made longer rear spring shackles and now it sits level unloaded and with the "illegal 5er" on it.
Don't understand why 3/4T's have to sit so high all the way around.
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I want to lower the rear of my Ram 2500. One option is shackles, but that would only gives me about 1-1/2-in. There are no blocks to remove like some trucks. I certainly can't see lowering it 6-1//2-in with a flip kit. They look pretty cool with a 4 - 6 drop, but can't see the practicality of a truck that can't be driven in some places. I have wondered about remove one or some leaf springs and add air bags when I haul. Actually I never haul heavy anyway. What you think OC?
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03-01-2015, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfWhistle
I want to lower the rear of my Ram 2500. One option is shackles, but that would only gives me about 1-1/2-in. There are no blocks to remove like some trucks. I certainly can't see lowering it 6-1//2-in with a flip kit. They look pretty cool with a 4 - 6 drop, but can't see the practicality of a truck that can't be driven in some places. I have wondered about remove one or some leaf springs and add air bags when I haul. Actually I never haul heavy anyway. What you think OC?
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Depends on how much you want to lower it. I just don't see putting a lift kit on a trailer when lowering the truck is so easy.
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03-01-2015, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
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Depends on how much you want to lower it. I just don't see putting a lift kit on a trailer when lowering the truck is so easy.
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Problem is if you lower it it may very well sag and be out of level. No point leveling the trailer if it throws your truck out of level in the process. Lifting the trailer is cheap and easy. Also, if your truck is under warranty, lowering could cause issues in the event of a failure.
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03-01-2015, 07:37 PM
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Quote:
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Problem is if you lower it it may very well sag and be out of level. No point leveling the trailer if it throws your truck out of level in the process. Lifting the trailer is cheap and easy. Also, if your truck is under warranty, lowering could cause issues in the event of a failure.
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I just use air bags to get back what it lowers when loaded. No pain, no strain, best of both worlds. Longer shackles will not void a warranty, at least it hasn't on the 4 I've had.
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