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Old 01-10-2016, 07:07 AM   #91
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Manufacturers have been using all or part aluminum bodies for years. And years.

Including GM, BMW, Chrysler/Fiat, Acura, Mercedes and many, many more.

List of Car Manufacturers who use Aluminum Body Panels

Ford is taking it to another level domestically. In Europe, they've been doing it for years on higher end models. And some not-so-high-end models

And while I'm hardly a Europhile when it comes to cars, they know how to make them.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:56 AM   #92
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The problem is not endemic in the EcoBoost. It is a concern/problem with ANY Direct Injection Engine. Or -- Can be a concern/problem.

BMW, Acura, Cadillac CTS, VW/Audi.....

It's Direct Injection, NOT the EcoBoost.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...ines/index.htm

And there's a LOT of DI Engines out there. A lot.

Ford claims to have fixed their problem. Time will tell.

If you've got an older one and you're worried about it, check into it and maybe get a quality catch-can. Maybe. Your call

Quality being the operative word.

I'm just plugging along in my 360HP, 380 lb-ft of torque, 5.0L Coyote V8.

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Old 01-10-2016, 09:58 AM   #94
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SilveradoSierra.com ‚ÄĘ 2014 and up owners!!! : Vortec 6200 6.2L V8

2014 and up owners!!!

The GM trucks from 2014 on are now Direct Injection and the intake valve coking issue now affects the V8's (where until now the ecotech 4L and the 3.6L V6's have been the biggest problem engines)......




....This is NOT a GM only issue, it affects every make/model of DI 4 stroke engine including motorcycles, outboards, and snowmobiles. Some more than others as you can see in this link of photos from techs all over the world:
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:05 AM   #95
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I enjoyed the 4.7 vs 3.5 video; it sounds like the 4.7 is very capable within its limitations for weights, but for the right application it would fit so many situations. The unloaded 26 to 30 MPG sure is appealing. The price tags... not so much.

In the vid, they were pulling a trailer nearly at the max for the 4.7 and it sounded like the 'testers' liked it better than the 3.5, which was loaded 3000# under its max. I have to wonder if they were simply saying what they were paid to say. The 3.5 did have a higher gear ratio and ever option known to man and some I have never heard of. Did Ford go to aluminum so they could add more and more costly options? If so, Chevy and Ram will have to follow suit.

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The earlier Ford vs Chevy / Ram video only proves that the manufacturers HP claims are right. HP wins the race every time. Its science. HP is about work based on time; while torque is ignorant of time.

There is a torque war going on between manufacturers, which is being done to help sales, but is doing little to help performance. It would be better to give us a wider power band and not tune for peaks, but that doesn't sell.

This is much like the cubic inch wars back in the 1960s for those old enough to remember.
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If anyone is interested in what torque and HP essentially is and have it explained in simple terms, this site is quite good.
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Debunking Horsepower and Torque Myths
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Simply, Torque is how much work is being done and HP is how fast it's being done.

Plus, outside of ten-million-dollar dynamometers, Torque is measured and HP is estimated.

In our application, Torque rules.

In Formula 1........ Not so much. Of which, Ford Engines have won more F1 races than any other engine besides Ferrari...... And Ford isn't even in the series about half the time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formul...e_manufacturer

Just an FYI
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Simply, Torque is how much work is being done and HP is how fast it's being done.

Plus, outside of ten-million-dollar dynamometers, Torque is measured and HP is estimated.

In our application, Torque rules.

In Formula 1........ Not so much. Of which, Ford Engines have won more F1 races than any other engine besides Ferrari...... And Ford isn't even in the series about half the time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formul...e_manufacturer

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Was the Ford engine a Ecoboost?


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Actually HP is a measurement of work. If I can lift an 80# bag of cement into a truck bed, that is like torque... my strength. How many bags I can load in a given amount of time into the truck is like HP... or work. Another analogy: we don't get paid for how strong we are (torque); we get paid for the work we do; using the strength to perform what we can accomplish using that strength (HP).
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