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01-12-2016, 03:39 PM
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At the first few words i thought you were serious we read such ludicrous statement on here. It hard to separate that from intelligent humor. Thanks for keeping us on our toes, goduc. That was indeed clever.
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01-12-2016, 06:03 PM
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#122
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Location: Seaford, De
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goduc
The only difference between an F150 and a SD Ford is the P rated tires on the F150. Springs might be a little softer for ride, the frame is a little thinner to save weight and the drive train is lighter duty to save mpg. It's also cheaper than a 3/4 - 1 ton, so looks like he's good to go. I can see why lots of guys tow over weight with their F150s. It's really just a rebadged SD with a couple changes.
I think Tundras are similar. That's why Toyota never made a 3/4 ton truck. They already have one.
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jack up the radiator cap, change everything else out. TA DA.
I hope you tent camp and don't tow ANYTHING
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01-12-2016, 06:12 PM
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#123
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Seems to me with the guy's mentality he would be better off if he applied his energy into winning the tractor pull at his state fair rather than risk ruining a perfectly good vehicle.
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01-12-2016, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Big Toe
Not the tranny.
The driveshaft.
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Is this normal on a new Ford ?
I agree with others, why do it?
But there was never a shot showing the load except for the people in the truck.
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01-12-2016, 06:59 PM
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#125
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
Is this normal on a new Ford ?
I agree with others, why do it?
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Mine does not have it but I'm not towing 15k lbs with it.
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01-12-2016, 08:00 PM
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#126
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
Is this normal on a new Ford ?
I agree with others, why do it?
But there was never a shot showing the load except for the people in the truck.
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There are a couple of possible things that could be. It could be the 4WD not fully engaged and trying under full power to engage. My money is on axle wrap with that much weight though.
Mine certainly doesn't do that, but that truck is pulling more than twice my trailer weight.
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01-12-2016, 08:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
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Before my current F250 and 5er I pulled 7000# with a 2015 F150 2.7 EB. Even through the mountains in NC it was not a problem at all. It had plenty extra to give. Sure it could have done more but I had a good excuse to buy even bigger and a new truck! If I could not have afforded that I'd have kept what I have to be safe and sane.
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01-12-2016, 09:25 PM
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#128
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Having a 3.5 I will tell you this much the 2.7 will tow its limits better than most v8 engines. Having owned six diesel trucks and towing with every one of them I used to be bias when seeing other people with gas motors I would say they need a diesel. Well having towed with my 2011 f150 3.5 3.73 rear 4x4 crew trailer 2015 vibe 272 scaled weight @ 7202 lbs . Theses Eco boots moators are a different animal all together and as long as towing your trucks rated weight you will find that the 2.7 will out perform and always impress you.
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01-13-2016, 08:28 AM
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#129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaxmutt
There are a couple of possible things that could be. It could be the 4WD not fully engaged and trying under full power to engage. My money is on axle wrap with that much weight though.
Mine certainly doesn't do that, but that truck is pulling more than twice my trailer weight.
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Yes, axle wrap causes the drive shaft to flex up and back down and it makes that noise when it does. Not real good on the U-Joints or the rear end. But that 9-3/4 is one tough cookie.
Still not a good thing. It can be solved with some drag bars or a CalTrac but it's not worth it unless you're actually experiencing it.
A lot of trucks, especially Diesels (with all that torque), do that and most people don't even know what it is. Neither do a lot of mechanics.
It's common in Drag Cars and Off-Roaders, too.
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01-13-2016, 09:10 AM
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#130
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I'm not sure using the Ike Gauntlet to compare Non-Turbo and Turbo Trucks is fair because the extreme altitude favors the TurboCharged engines. But, here it is....
Data: TFLtruck - Ike Gauntlet Results in One Place - Truck News, Views and Real World Reviews
Ike Gauntlet 2.0 (Eisenhower Tunnel, Colorado)
The 8,000 lbs load from the original test was not slowing these trucks down enough, so Ike Gauntlet 2.0 raised the ante to 10,800 lbs. MPG is measured only on the way up as provided by the factory computer.
Year Make Model Up (sec) Up (MPG) Load (lbs)
2013 Ford F-150 Crew 4×4 EcoBoost 7:36 2.9 10,800
2014 Chevrolet Silverado Crew 4×4 6.2L 8:26 3.4 10,800
2014 Nissan Titan KingCab PRO-4X 9:08 2.8 10,800
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01-13-2016, 12:18 PM
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#131
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Big Toe
I'm not sure using the Ike Gauntlet to compare Non-Turbo and Turbo Trucks is fair because the extreme altitude favors the TurboCharged engines. But, here it is....
Data: TFLtruck - Ike Gauntlet Results in One Place - Truck News, Views and Real World Reviews
Ike Gauntlet 2.0 (Eisenhower Tunnel, Colorado)
The 8,000 lbs load from the original test was not slowing these trucks down enough, so Ike Gauntlet 2.0 raised the ante to 10,800 lbs. MPG is measured only on the way up as provided by the factory computer.
Year Make Model Up (sec) Up (MPG) Load (lbs)
2013 Ford F-150 Crew 4×4 EcoBoost 7:36 2.9 10,800
2014 Chevrolet Silverado Crew 4×4 6.2L 8:26 3.4 10,800
2014 Nissan Titan KingCab PRO-4X 9:08 2.8 10,800
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I am not even sure how relevant I70 is to most owners, but it is to me living at 6200 feet. However, the numbers are not apples-to-apples. This is basically a new test and grading that they are using. They made it clear that they have no other numbers to compare as of now. The previous tests (Ford and Chebby) used closed trailers that are likely more of an aerodynamic problem than the flat gooseneck trailer. Both of those other trucks also started from a dead stop, where it appears the Nissan was rolling from the start.
As much as I like what TFL does, they are changing the game more than game changers at this point. . .
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