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Old 12-10-2013, 01:59 PM   #1
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I'm about to get the ford 6.0 "fix" for $4700. I've had no issues at all with my own truck but so many friends have had the 6.0 problems they all say "do it" before it breaks down, because it will, and will cost even more with the damage done. Does anyone have experience with the fix? How much did it cost etc? This is the egr delete, oil cooler, head studs, and tuner.
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:10 PM   #2
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Don't have personal experience but when I bought my excursion I spoke with a couple of buddies of mine who did "the fix" on their 6.0's and the were saying about $5000. So it sounds like your in the right ball park.
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:17 PM   #3
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Thanks simply....I am actually in an email exchange now with a very reputable local diesel shop. They are slow and looking for work hehehe! They just dropped to $4486....time to pull the trigger if it's going to make the truck what I "thought" I was buying! lol
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
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Nice. I ended up going with the V10 so I don't have to worry about that issue anyway. Good luck!
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:29 PM   #5
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IMHO, unless you plan on pumping up the power, leave the head studs out. The factory bolts are fine on a stock or lightly tuned motor. I would instead, (being your truck has not been touched) have them put in a new HPOP with updated STC fitting. Also, if your stand pipes are factory, have them changed. I would definitely have the Blue Spring kit installed also if it has not been done.

The problem people were having with the head gaskets was when the EGR cooler went it would let coolant into the cylinders and lift the heads by stretching the factory head bolts. You are deleting the cooler so you won't have that problem. Personally, I would rather lift a head than take a chance of blowing a rod out the side of the block from a hydro-lock condition.
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:07 PM   #6
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It depends on what they are doing as part of the fix. It's a great price, if that includes head gaskets, studs, new oil cooler, upgraded EGR cooler (or delete that's your choice) and get them to throw in a sinister or xdp coolant filter, I would say fair price. I got my truck and had come from Ford having done an EGR cooler and oil cooler, it started to show signs of head float (likely due to the EGR cooler stretching the stock head bolts) and had the work done by someone that knew the 6.0 well locally. Since then running the SCT towing tune pulling my 5th wheel without issue.

I would not stay with the torque to yield bolts, even in not boosted applications (VW engines) that I am experienced with they are just not as strong and can still lead to failure if they are not yielded to spec using proper stretch gauges.
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:36 PM   #7
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It depends on what they are doing as part of the fix. It's a great price, if that includes head gaskets, studs, new oil cooler, upgraded EGR cooler (or delete that's your choice) and get them to throw in a sinister or xdp coolant filter, I would say fair price. I got my truck and had come from Ford having done an EGR cooler and oil cooler, it started to show signs of head float (likely due to the EGR cooler stretching the stock head bolts) and had the work done by someone that knew the 6.0 well locally. Since then running the SCT towing tune pulling my 5th wheel without issue.

I would not stay with the torque to yield bolts, even in not boosted applications (VW engines) that I am experienced with they are just not as strong and can still lead to failure if they are not yielded to spec using proper stretch gauges.
The torque specs on the 6.0 is not done with torque, it'd done in degree.
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Once you get the work done, mind sharing the shop? I don't have a Ford, but would love to have a quality place to take my diesel truck to.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:56 PM   #9
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since they have the heads off for gasket work, i would suggest QUALITY head bolts like arp fasteners. would not go back to factory issue type for any amount of money.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:59 PM   #10
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This place has the best reputation around here...they do it cab off and are doing about two of the 6.0's a week. Most of them floated the heads with no egr coolant leak at all...no tuner, no nothing. My neighbors truck of the same year has factory paint on the inside of his receiver! (never towed anything) with 65k his heads floated.Cause; the head bolts are stretching with normal heating and cooling cycles. The egr coolant also cause the heads to float because of steam, and at first in the 6.0 disaster they thought all that was because of the egr...but it's not.
I'm getting a sinister tuner with 5 custom tunes...one is towing, mainly because of the EGR delete, ARP head studs, head machining with new springs, maybe valves, oem head and other gaskets, new oem oil cooler, egr delete, stand pipes, injectors bored/cleaned, fluid flush, oil change with all fuel filters oem.
Bottom line is when you do it, do it right. He's got a truck he did a year ago holding me up right now...the guy did it all...but not the heads! Bummer
These three guys in his shop have diesel for blood! They do mostly commercial diesel and pretty much turn the Navistar/International back into what it was before the EPA made Ford screw it up! Can I say screw? Hmmm! lol
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