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07-05-2013, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Ford Expedition Break down
Just wanted to let any other members with an expedition tow vehicle know what I found out the hard way. Blew out the radiator on my 2003 Eddie Bauer 5.4 liter expedition with factory tow package on a trip for the 4th. Broke down in a small town and no one in town had a radiator. Ended up having my expedition and TT towed back home via two wreckers and one large bill. Once back to Houston I called the parts stores and no one had a radiator, everyone told me 3-5 days to get one. Now this is a common truck why is a basic part special order? I called 1-800 radiator who has a shop near me and its in stock for less money than the special order bs I heard. Guy at 1800radiator tells me when I pick up the part that he does a lot of work for the local ford dealer and said the thermostat caused the radiator to fail from over pressure. He was right I took out the old tstat and it was all corroded and stuck. Radiator guy said it happens a lot at 150,000 miles on these 5.4 motors. So you should check your tstat and avoid the problems I had and the expense. Also you will need a special tool to remove the trans cooler lines from the radiator. I tried 4 diff sets of quick release tools before buying a "lisle 39960 Ford trans oil cooler line disconnect Tool" For all 2003 and newer you must use this tool.
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07-05-2013, 12:11 PM
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07-05-2013, 01:09 PM
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Wanna Be Camper
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
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Thanks for the info and sorry to hear you had so much trouble getting running again.
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07-05-2013, 04:52 PM
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Oklahoma Proud
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: central OK
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Man that makes for a rough week. Glad you figured it all out!
I work at a large auto dealer and we use 1800radiator all the time. And yes those ford tranny lines are impossible without that special disconect on certain models.
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07-05-2013, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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When my superduty still had its 5.4 I went through 4 radiators. They would split across the top tank.
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07-16-2013, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty3215
When my superduty still had its 5.4 I went through 4 radiators. They would split across the top tank.
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This one blew out the seal across the front of the top tank where it mates to the core.
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07-16-2013, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Western Connecticut
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You have to drain and flush your coolant @ 50k intervals to keep the crud from building up. Ford may or may not use this service interval, but it's good practice.
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07-16-2013, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rattleNsmoke
You have to drain and flush your coolant @ 50k intervals to keep the crud from building up. Ford may or may not use this service interval, but it's good practice.
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I went one step further and traded it in on a new F150 4x4 😎
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07-16-2013, 05:27 PM
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Mod free 5er
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danielflading
I went one step further and traded it in on a new F150 4x4
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Should have gone 1 more step and got a Silverado 1500 4x4.
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07-16-2013, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Western Connecticut
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Good choice. Since it's a tow vehicle, consider using your 'severe duty' maintenance schedule.
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2006 Ford F350 Lariat 6.0L Diesel
2003 Harley Heritage Softail "Hogzilla"
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07-16-2013, 05:31 PM
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TeresaInCAL
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: California foothills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danielflading
I went one step further and traded it in on a new F150 4x4 😎
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Good for you! Now you get to have fun!!
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2013 f150 Ecoboost 4x4
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07-16-2013, 05:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danielflading
I went one step further and traded it in on a new F150 4x4
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At least you used your head and didn't buy a Chev junkpile!
Did you get an EcoBeast?
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07-16-2013, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
Should have gone 1 more step and got a Silverado 1500 4x4.
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Not enough torque in that so I bought a truck with more, Ecoboost 4x4! 😎
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07-16-2013, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rattleNsmoke
Good choice. Since it's a tow vehicle, consider using your 'severe duty' maintenance schedule.
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👍 Thanks
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07-16-2013, 06:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeresaInCAL
Good for you! Now you get to have fun!!
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Will do, thanks!
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07-16-2013, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
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Texas Edition!
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07-16-2013, 06:52 PM
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TeresaInCAL
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: California foothills
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Puuuuurdy!
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07-17-2013, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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Thanks for the info! We have pulled our trailer for 3 years with our Expedition and have been pleased with its performance. At 161000 we have made appt. to have temp gauge checked so we can avoid what you went through.
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2003 Ford Expedition EB
2011 Rockwood 2304s
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07-17-2013, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iluvlcy
Thanks for the info! We have pulled our trailer for 3 years with our Expedition and have been pleased with its performance. At 161000 we have made appt. to have temp gauge checked so we can avoid what you went through.
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I would recommend having the thermostat replaced and the system flushed out. Then you should be good. It's an easy DIY procedure to replace the tstat. Remove the old one, Then I put the garden hose on the tstat opening, removed the lower rad hose from radiator and turnec on hose and flushed it out. A lot of ugly stuff came out. Hope that helps!
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