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Old 08-26-2013, 09:47 AM   #11
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I would suspect the raptor suspension is much beefier than a standard truck, just softer spring rates. Air bags?
A Raptor TV would be awesome. Tow, set up, then go out and play!

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Old 08-26-2013, 10:03 AM   #12
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I tow about 7500 with my Eco-Boost, never have any issues with power. Never had any issues with controlling the load, the sway is very minimal. The mileage is decent, cant remember what I usually get. Going out tomorrow for the first time this year(just had a baby), I'll post my mileage here if you would like.

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Old 08-26-2013, 10:15 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by thebrakeman View Post
Unless you are part-time/full-time RVer, comparing the gas mileage while towing is the wrong approach. The efficiency of the Ecoboost comes into play when you consider that at least 90% of driving will be done without a trailer attached. In that condition, the Ecoboost will use much less gas than the trusty 5.4L.

I don't think that's enough to make you trade. But since you included gas mileage in your logic, I wanted to point that out.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:15 AM   #14
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Don't have a Raptor, but had a 2005 FX4 with the 5.4L. Pulling was never an issue with my former Puma 29RKSS, and loaded, it scaled at just under 7,000 pounds (no fluids on board, of course). I had an Equalizer brand hitch on the back, and sway, whether in wind, or on busy interstates with heavy truck traffic, was rarely an issue. My main issue was with the constant gear searching, even on slight grades. It had a lower ratio rear end (somewhere around the 3.90 area, with sure grip differential), and would attain highway speeds quickly enough. I was just afraid I'd overwork the tranny, so that was my only reason for trading for a Super Duty.

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Old 08-26-2013, 11:28 AM   #15
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The Raptor is designed for off-road endurance running. It has much softer spring rates designed to give a lot of travel, and has more than 2x as much suspension travel built in as compared to the regular F150. Most of this is actually up front.

It also uses heavier components in the drive-line including axles. The fact that is much heavier components than a regular F150, but a lower tow rating should tell you something. No doubt it will get the job done, I see plenty of them towing snowmobiles, 4 wheelers etc. But keep in mind that the greater the suspension travel the more possible sway can be induced. The truck is designed to have the axles move a lot over uneven surfaces.

I would suspect that by adding RAS which reduces suspension travel and firms up the spring rate, you have basically reverse engineered what the SVT team did. You have taken out the compliant spring rate for off-road use and gone with a more traditional spring rate. Which basically just gives you the handling dynamic of a block lifted F150.

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Old 08-28-2013, 03:31 PM   #16
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Hey Twisty, Nice choice! I had a 2003 F-350 a few years back. If I knew I was going down this road, I would have held onto that one. The only trouble was the new 6.0L diesel. Too many problems with the early years. I don't know if they've even worked the bugs out yet but I'd probably look at a different option. Ford will still always be my 1st choice!!!
The 6.0 is long gone. Ford has gone through the 6.4 and is now using a 6.7. Both the 6.0 and 6.4 were International engines; the 6.7 is manufactured by Ford. It is a completely different animal and has been a very dependable engine as a whole. It does use DEF, but mine seems to use it at a rate of about 5 gallons per 10K miles. Basically every oil change will cost you an additional $40. Other than that I never think about it.

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