Ford F150 SuperCrew payload capacity

[Seachaser186]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

Unfortunately, Ford offers power telescoping mirrors only on Lariat or higher trim package. From other comments here, they apparently can't be retro-fitted.

What's in an XL that increases the payload, that a Lariat doesn't have?

It's what is not in the XL that increases payload. Bells and whistles add up.

[Teamfour]

Originally Posted by Seachaser186

It's what is not in the XL that increases payload. Bells and whistles add up.

Exactly. My previous truck was a 2011 F150 XLT CCSB with the EB and Max Tow package. My payload was 1,876 lbs. Most folks with Lariats or Platinums wouldn't believe me unless I showed them the payload sticker. All those bells and whistles, skid plates, etc add up in a hurry and subtract from the payload. FWIW, I towed the TT in my sig for a few thousand miles with the F150 and power wise it was great, but comfort wise not so much on long hauls. Thus the F250 I now have. I will gladly give up a little get up and go over comfort any day.

I had the F250 ordered with just want I wanted and my payload is now 3,295 lbs, or several hundred more than an F250 Lariat.

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by Seachaser186

It's what is not in the XL that increases payload. Bells and whistles add up.

So, basically, same GVWR but the options consume some of it, leaving less for payload?

[Teamfour]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

So, basically, same GVWR but the options consume some of it, leaving less for payload?

Correct. You also have to mindful that as you add accessories such as a bedliner or bed cover, it will continue to diminish your payload.

[tbln930]

The F150 offers an HD payload option in addition to max tow. The HD payload pkg adds about 500 pounds more payload capacity over the max tow, and 1,000 pounds over the stock truck with neither max tow nor HD payload. HD is a special option and I don't see it often and it isn't specifically related to towing - just extra payload. I think the HD is only available on the 3.5 Eco or 5L and the long bed. It limits some other options I believe. I think it can only be ordered on a trim line up to a Lariat. I read somewhere you can tell if the rear wheel has an extra lug nut (7). The 7-lug wheels have a 2,400 lbs capacity to support the 4,800 lbs rear axle rating, I guess, compared to the 6-lug wheels at 2,025 lbs each.

Originally Posted by chriscowles

If referring to the Max Payload package, I intend to buy a truck with the maximum payload possible, given other constraints:

Must have power folding/telescoping mirrors (available only on Lariat or higher)
Short wheelbase (can't park the 250+" in my garage)

If you're referring to a 250 HD, I'm sticking with the 150 class.

Thanks

[KMP44]

Originally Posted by tbln930

The F150 offers an HD payload option in addition to max tow. The HD payload pkg adds about 500 pounds more payload capacity over the max tow, and 1,000 pounds over the stock truck with neither max tow nor HD payload. HD is a special option and I don't see it often and it isn't specifically related to towing - just extra payload. I think the HD is only available on the 3.5 Eco or 5L and the long bed. It limits some other options I believe. I think it can only be ordered on a trim line up to a Lariat.

The HD payload package is great in theory for somebody with a setup like the OP. Problem is these trucks are nearly non-existent. Its built on a heavier frame with heavier duty components, but they did not produce any in 2015 due to a shortage of frames (apparently). Also when you get the HD payload, it drastically limits the other options you can get - which may or may not be an issue for people. The build and price page at Ford.com lets you see what you can and can't get.

If buying new, you can always order one, as I think from reading on the Ford forums, these are becoming available. But buying used these are tough to find.

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by tbln930

HD is a special option and I don't see it often and it isn't specifically related to towing - just extra payload. I think the HD is only available on the 3.5 Eco or 5L and the long bed.

I've seen the option and think I came to the conclusion that you can't get it on a short bed. The car builder tools I found on the Ford web site aren't explicit on that point, at least not in a way that's clear to me.

The long bed is a deal killer for me. I really don't care which trim line I get as long as it has basic power interior accessories and the Sync3, maybe added as individual option. Other requirements (power mirror, integrated controller, 4-door) are firm.

I might have to build it myself and buy it new. I really don't like buying cars new. It aggravates the miser in me.

[tbln930]

Yes - When I bought I was told don't even try back then but I thought for new it was now available. Not sure. It is the long bed which I can squeeze in a 24' long garage.

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by tbln930

It is the long bed which I can squeeze in a 24' long garage.

Allowing for reinforcements on the inside of the garage door my usable space is 20' (240") with a few inches to spare. Ford's online specs list the overall length of a 145" WB SuperCrew as 231.9". I obviously won't be leaving the hitch on it when I park it.

In reality it seems it may be inconvenient to park the truck in the garage every day. Perhaps a long bed isn't out of the question? I'll just have to accept getting out of the car in the rain, and getting into a hot car.

A neighbor has a short bed 4 door. I'll enlist him to park it in my garage when I clean the junk out, as a test.

I just had a chat with a rep on the Ford.com site. A national search for 2016 SuperCrew 3.5L EB short bed with power mirrors and integrated brakes came up dry. And that's the entire country, with no limits other than those listed.

[tbln930]

Yep on the search. I think the mirrors are the only problem. I have the regular Lariat Power Heated Chrome Signal mirrors and they work fine for a 37' trailer and are definitely better for parking in the garage (I would forget one time if I had to close them electronically and rip one off).

Our truck has the towing camera/sensor package and I have a portable camera for the TT if I back up alone. The extended mirrors do look cool but I think are unnecessary. The included mirrors meet the towing requirement I was told.

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[Teamfour]

See if this helps you out in determining different equipment packages. I used some thing similar when I ordered my F250. I simply highlighted everything I wanted and took the document to my fleet guy at the dealership. Easy peasy.

[chriscowles]

Perhaps I'll drop that mirror requirement if standard size mirrors are adequate. I have add-on mirrors on my Durango and they're a pain to adjust every time. The stock Durango mirrors are inadequate, themselves.

I have a rear view camera on the trailer. It works sporadically because the transmitter is at the back of the trailer. I'll fix that by moving the transmitter to the front. But that doesn't help with the side view, even when it works.

[tbln930]

I believe you but I love the technology. My brother-in-laws payload on his Platinum F250 was lower than I expected but I can't remember the number at the moment. It was below 3000 lbs. It seems to have most options a toy can have as a truck.

Originally Posted by Teamfour

Exactly. My previous truck was a 2011 F150 XLT CCSB with the EB and Max Tow package. My payload was 1,876 lbs. Most folks with Lariats or Platinums wouldn't believe me unless I showed them the payload sticker. All those bells and whistles, skid plates, etc add up in a hurry and subtract from the payload. FWIW, I towed the TT in my sig for a few thousand miles with the F150 and power wise it was great, but comfort wise not so much on long hauls. Thus the F250 I now have. I will gladly give up a little get up and go over comfort any day.

I had the F250 ordered with just want I wanted and my payload is now 3,295 lbs, or several hundred more than an F250 Lariat.

[Seachaser186]

OK this thread is about a F-150. We all know or should know a 3/4 or 1 ton truck can tow more with more payload.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

OP here. I appreciate the helpful comments. Those with experience with a similar combination are particularly helpful.

My plan is to get the heaviest payload package. I am aware of the payload being the limiting factor. Reference here to a "7000# GVWR Package" helped clarify that line seen on a window sticker (online). I gathered that it was a heavier payload but didn't know if it was the heaviest payload. Comments here suggest that it is.

With respect to tow mirrors, I'm aware they're a separate option. Baffling, but apparently true. That's my sticking point on finding a used vehicle, or even a new 2016 on a lot. I definitely want the power telescoping and folding mirrors because it will enable me to park the car in the garage. I really don't want to hop out of the truck every time I park it.

Being at the end of the model year results in more incentives from Ford but fewer options as to trucks with power mirrors. I hope I don't have to order a new 2017 vehicle to get what I looking for. I far prefer for someone else to pay for that first mile off the lot. But, if I do order new I'll get what I want, and nothing more, and the 10-speed transmission seems like an improvement.

Again, thanks. I'll report back to this thread with the results of my search. I'm not in a hurry so it might not be soon.

Hello Chris,

Heaviest payload for 2013 to 2014 was 7650. I had one.

Brian

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by B and B

Hello Chris,

Heaviest payload for 2013 to 2014 was 7650. I had one.

Brian

You must mean GVWR, not payload. :what:

[Seachaser186]

Originally Posted by bikendan

You must mean GVWR, not payload. :what:

And the GVWR on the new ones are less due to the aluminium thus adding payload and towing capacity.

[tbln930]

Yes - my 2014 GVWR is 7650. Here is the sticker. I don't think I am giving away any state secrets except it is in Canadian dollars so ignore the prices (well if you're in the US :-)). Click on it to get a bigger picture. If you click the zoom button in Photobucket it will get even bigger. It's very readable. I didn't get the final year of steel by accident. My hunting buddy got a 2015 F150 King Ranch right after I bought this one. I can tell you a good story about the aluminum repair on his truck if you want. it is painful.

One of the most used options on the truck camping is that tailgate step and I highly recommend it. I have an RV rear camera and a TPMS system in the front as well.

[The_Rhino]

Originally Posted by KMP44

The HD payload package is great in theory for somebody with a setup like the OP. Problem is these trucks are nearly non-existent.

I agree you won't find one used & if you do you'll pay a premium...

Originally Posted by chriscowles

Allowing for reinforcements on the inside of the garage door my usable space is 20' (240") with a few inches to spare. Ford's online specs list the overall length of a 145" WB SuperCrew as 231.9". I obviously won't be leaving the hitch on it when I park it.

In reality it seems it may be inconvenient to park the truck in the garage every day. Perhaps a long bed isn't out of the question?

I mounted a pad to my garage wall & pull my Ram all the way up until it touches the wall... I can't leave my hitch on or even walk-around my truck with the garage door shut but at least it's out of the elements. In good weather I leave it outside but it's nice to have a warm/dry truck in the winter...

[fx2]

When I bought my F150 My requirements were the EB, tow mirrors, brake controller and leather. I could find one black 2015 Lariat and one Grey 2016 Platinum within 500 miles. This was December 2015. I bought the Platinum. The tow mirrors is the option that made for slim pickins.