Ford F150 SuperCrew payload capacity

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by fx2

The tow mirrors is the option that made for slim pickins.

I just stopped next to a 250 at a gas station. It had power telescoping mirrors. Not having actually seen them (can't find any on a 150) I was surprised by their size. The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

[SailorSam20500]

Originally Posted by Seachaser186

It's what is not in the XL that increases payload. Bells and whistles add up.

Actually, no. The XL trim level has an option called "Max Payload". I haven't looked into what that entails, but it is NOT available on the higher trim levels. Also, I don't think you can get max payload and 4x4 on the same truck.

XL trim is primarily targeted as a business work truck.

[tbln930]

The mirrors are still extended on my Lariat by an extra 4" I believe over a normal car. I clear by about 3" at the right mirrors edge when I pull into the 16x7 garage door. The extended mirrors would not work for me. Besides these mirrors work fine for towing.

Originally Posted by chriscowles

I just stopped next to a 250 at a gas station. It had power telescoping mirrors. Not having actually seen them (can't find any on a 150) I was surprised by their size. The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

[fx2]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

I just stopped next to a 250 at a gas station. It had power telescoping mirrors. Not having actually seen them (can't find any on a 150) I was surprised by their size. The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

Mine are power folding so I have no issue

[SailorSam20500]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

I have the trailer mirrors on mine. Right that they don't pull in all the way on the rails. However, mine power fold and I almost always fold them. Folded they are closer to the body than the standard mirrors extended. DW requires them to be folded so she can get at her car. I think she would be unhappy with the standard mirrors in the out position.

I find that the lower wide angle mirror is very helpful. I can see my truck wheels and most of the lane next to me all at once. Just wish this section was also power adjustable (guess I'm getting really lazy... ).

A criticism - I think the magnification on the upper part of the passenger side mirror is stronger than I like.

Another feature that is really nice is the flood light that is on the sides. It is REALLY bright. A negative on that feature is that they automagically turn off at about 5 MPH. However, there is a mod that allows them to stay on permanently. You need to jumper a wire under the dash. Details on doing this are available on the F150 Forum.

[Seachaser186]

Originally Posted by SailorSam20500

Actually, no. The XL trim level has an option called "Max Payload". I haven't looked into what that entails, but it is NOT available on the higher trim levels. Also, I don't think you can get max payload and 4x4 on the same truck.

XL trim is primarily targeted as a business work truck.

For the same GVWR the XL would have more payload than a Lariat.

[keith_h]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

I just stopped next to a 250 at a gas station. It had power telescoping mirrors. Not having actually seen them (can't find any on a 150) I was surprised by their size. The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

I don't use tow mirrors and find the standard mirrors to be just fine with my trailer which is 7 ft wide.

[Wayne Joan]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

I just stopped next to a 250 at a gas station. It had power telescoping mirrors. Not having actually seen them (can't find any on a 150) I was surprised by their size. The owner showed me they don't even retract completely. Owning them might actually be counterproductive to my goal of parking the truck in the garage.

What do other 150 owners do about tow mirrors? Do you find the stock mirrors adequate as was described by one of the respondents here?

I have manual tow mirrors (wouldn't be without them). My garage door is 9 feet wide. I lower my window and fold the drivers side mirror in when entering the garage. It is still a tight fit.

[dougk53]

Max Payload is only available in XL, XLT and Lariat trim levels and is available in 4x4. In the SCREW it requires a 6.5 foot bed. The newer 150 will have 6 lug wheels as to the previous years 7 lugs. Max payload on an XLT or Lariat will give you a payload of 2480# on a base model. Options can reasonably be expected to add 350# leaving an approximate payload of 2100#. Speaking to he issue of tow mirrors I have found them to be a must even for regular driving as the convex portion of the mirrors completely eliminate any and all blindspots. Also when backing in to really tight spots with the trailer the oversize mirrors push button adjustability makes maneuvering much easier. Max Payload will also allow more flexibility when the almost certain trailer upgrade rears it's ugly head in the future.
Good luck.

Doug

[tbln930]

Whoa. Please read the previous posts before you post. The payload option is called the HD payload and not the Max Payload. That is important because it is different than the Max Tow option.

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by keith_h

I don't use tow mirrors and find the standard mirrors to be just fine with my trailer which is 7 ft wide.

Being 7' wide may make that difference.

[dougk53]

Whoa!!! So I slipped with terminology but still provided more pertinent information about the HD Payload than anyone else. By the way I am not infallible, the max payloads allowable on the base model HD Payload is 2710# with 18" wheels and 2420 # with 17" wheels on the SCREW as per the Ford Advisory.
To the OP, I hope that this information is of some help in determining your course of action. I too have never ordered a vehicle but search the dealers till I find something compatible to my needs. the HD Payload is probably only feasible if you are decide to order as you will be hard pressed to find one sitting on a dealer lot as it is a configuration with a limited appeal as most will just purchase a 250 gasser. Whatever direction you take good luck again.

Doug

[chriscowles]

Reading comments about the improved view provided by the trailer mirrors I conclude that I would prefer having them. Because I plan to park the car in the garage daily and I don't want to hear complaints from my wife, I'm back to the power mirrors. That requires a Lariat package or higher, in the 150.

Being limited in floor space I can't get the 6.5' box. Without the 6.5' box I can't get the HD payload package. So, I'm back to my original search, i.e., Lariat with power telescoping/folding mirrors and as much available payload as I can get with a 5.5' box. Unfortunately that means ordering from a dealer.

Although I've done it before when economic conditions favored the consumer, the miser in me really doesn't like buying a vehicle new. The beginning of a new model year is not such a time, and $50K is a lot of money.

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by dougk53

To the OP, I hope that this information is of some help in determining your course of action.

It is. I appreciate your input.

[dougk53]

If you have decided on how you want your truck configured best thing you can do is go to a large volume dealer and look at used trucks and get an idea of price then look at new 16 leftovers and hammer them in negotiation. When I bought mine as a leftover between incentives and negotiating I purchased a truck with a 50K sticker for 37K and got a spray in bedliner along with 36 month maintenance because I started to walk out and the sales manager was walking by and got involved. You never know unless you try. For some reason used trucks are commanding silly prices.

Doug

[Seachaser186]

Originally Posted by dougk53

If you have decided on how you want your truck configured best thing you can do is go to a large volume dealer and look at used trucks and get an idea of price then look at new 16 leftovers and hammer them in negotiation. When I bought mine as a leftover between incentives and negotiating I purchased a truck with a 50K sticker for 37K and got a spray in bedliner along with 36 month maintenance because I started to walk out and the sales manager was walking by and got involved. You never know unless you try. For some reason used trucks are commanding silly prices.

Doug

Good luck with that but this is a new year. Last year all the '15's were picked over so I had to buy a '16 to get what I needed. Still speaking with all your analysis the 7000 lb. GVWR 145" trucks without the HDP are still higher than the competitors. With a properly adjusted WDH he should have no problem.

[jwfrede]

My brother just bought the F150 you are looking at, I bought the same with a 6.5 bed. He is still on his first trip out west with 6000 lb trailer. I just got back with my 5000 lb trailer. Both trucks are around 7050 gross wt limit with around 1800 payload. He took his wife and 100lb dog. I went solo and had no problem. He was overloaded and had to drop stuff off at a cousin on the way. With a 500-600 hitch wt these trucks do not hold much cargo with people onboard. Clothes, generator, food, water, etc add up fast. You want to take bikes, they had better go on the trailer. Also, highly recommend the 36 gal tank. After online research it was requirement on selecting my truck. Drive 65 mph heading west in Neb/Kan with the long uphill and wind and mileage was around 8 mpg. Hills were never an issue, although often above 2000 or even 3000 rpm on mt roads. Plenty of power with ecoboost. But if you don't want to get gas every 150 miles the big tank is a must. Got maybe 12 mpg at 55 mph typically.

Jeff

[chriscowles]

Originally Posted by jwfrede

My brother just bought the F150 you are looking at, I bought the same with a 6.5 bed. He is still on his first trip out west with 6000 lb trailer. I just got back with my 5000 lb trailer. Both trucks are around 7050 gross wt limit with around 1800 payload. He took his wife and 100lb dog. I went solo and had no problem. He was overloaded and had to drop stuff off at a cousin on the way. With a 500-600 hitch wt these trucks do not hold much cargo with people onboard. Clothes, generator, food, water, etc add up fast. You want to take bikes, they had better go on the trailer. Also, highly recommend the 36 gal tank. After online research it was requirement on selecting my truck. Drive 65 mph heading west in Neb/Kan with the long uphill and wind and mileage was around 8 mpg. Hills were never an issue, although often above 2000 or even 3000 rpm on mt roads. Plenty of power with ecoboost. But if you don't want to get gas every 150 miles the big tank is a must. Got maybe 12 mpg at 55 mph typically.

Jeff

So, the truck payloads being the same, the difference between you is 275# in passengers, 150# (@~15%) tongue weight, and differences in personal gear?

[Realtorbear]

I have a 2013 F150 4x4 EB I pull a 2016 34.5 ft Forest River Vibe just about 6800 lbs I have not had a problem with the tow. I have come to a hill or two that I put the transmission into M so I could manually shift mostly in 3rd and 4th gear. That keeps my RPM at 2000 to 2300 and have not had a problem. And when I ordered the truck I had to order the tow mirrors separately but that is only on the F150. So far I am a happy camper with the performance of the F150.

[jwfrede]

Originally Posted by chriscowles

So, the truck payloads being the same, the difference between you is 275# in passengers, 150# (@~15%) tongue weight, and differences in personal gear?

That's correct. Also, both trucks have a Leer truck cap at ~200 lb. It's easy to fill a F-150. I have 1830 total cargo wt on the door sticker.

200 cap
450 trailer hitch(incl wt dist hitch impact)
25 wt dist hitch
230 me
75 camera gear, backpacks, tripods
125 two champion 2000 generators for dry camping AC, 1 gal gas
90 guess- clothes, shoes, boots 90 F when I left, 20F in Colorado mtns
36 carton of water bottles
25 tools
30 food/drinks/cooler
100 misc bins of supplies, emergency wool blankets, 4 lb propane tank, mr heater, chair, etc, didn't weigh it

This is around 1400 or so for just me traveling alone. Could probably move 100-200 to the trailer. It can carry lots of weight, already has some stuff, but there isn't a lot of room as it is a 7.5 ft wide low profile APEX.