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Old 04-19-2016, 10:35 AM   #141
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1. You brought up the recall situation, not me. So by my pointing out that GM has had recall issues, I'm not defending Ford, as you are asserting here. I was pointing out that ALL manufacturers have recalls.

2. I brought up the Pinto earlier, so I'm clearly, once again, not defending any particular brand.
All manufactures have recalls? Really? I had no idea!! Thank you for pointing that out. I guess I will now sell all my vehicles and buy a horse and buggy.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:39 AM   #142
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:02 AM   #143
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All manufactures have recalls? Really? I had no idea!! Thank you for pointing that out. I guess I will now sell all my vehicles and buy a horse and buggy.
Your earlier post indicated you didn't.
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Some of us are amused by these pointless discussions. If you find them unnecessary there are lots of other threads to participate in.
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Some of us are amused by these pointless discussions. If you find them unnecessary there are lots of other threads to participate in.
Geez don't take it personal. Everyone is having fun, can't I?
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1. I'm not defending Ford, as you are asserting here.

2. so I'm clearly, once again, not defending any particular brand.
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Your earlier post indicated you didn't.
Just like you're earlier posts "indicated" you're defending Ford.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:18 AM   #147
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I owned a Ford Pinto with the shield installed, It was a cheap first car and was a lot better than the Chevy Astra that had exploding engines or the AMC Pacer which were cheap cars at that time as well.

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Oh these again....

I'd much rather the frame to flex a bit.

Not sure how often a dually is taken off road, enough to lift a tire..
Then said, " hey, I need to open the tailgate!!"


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Oh these again....

I'd much rather the frame to flex a bit.

Not sure how often a dually is taken off road, enough to lift a tire..
Then said, " hey, I need to open the tailgate!!"


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I wonder if the Chevy 6,000 or 7,000 pounds in the bed what it would do to the frame at those angles.
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I dunno....all these tests were done as equally as possible.
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