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05-18-2018, 07:10 PM
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ford trucks
just wondering do you always use the haul/tow switch on your ford truck
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05-18-2018, 07:16 PM
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Yes when towing. Have a friend with a one ton Dodge and he keeps i5 in tow haul all the time.
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05-18-2018, 07:17 PM
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Generally yes. I either tow my Honda Fit, or I am towing a trailer and clays cart. The interstates I drive on are just hilly enough to warrant it.
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05-18-2018, 07:23 PM
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Yes when towing....
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05-18-2018, 07:25 PM
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thats what i was wondering i know it disengages the overdrive but on a flat smooth interstate using overdrive would increase my gas millage
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05-18-2018, 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alillico
thats what i was wondering i know it disengages the overdrive but on a flat smooth interstate using overdrive would increase my gas millage
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Not true. The transmission will still shift into 6th hear if it is not being challenged. The tow-haul just keeps it in a higher gear longer when needed for power. And it will kick in the downshifting also when needed for slowing down. But whether in tow-haul or not, as long as the transmission can, it will go into 6th gear.
Unless they changed the strategy on the newer trucks. Mine is a 2011.
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05-18-2018, 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EdJunior
Not true. The transmission will still shift into 6th hear if it is not being challenged. The tow-haul just keeps it in a higher gear longer when needed for power. And it will kick in the downshifting also when needed for slowing down. But whether in tow-haul or not, as long as the transmission can, it will go into 6th gear.
Unless they changed the strategy on the newer trucks. Mine is a 2011.
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Yep, same with Chevy tow-haul.
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05-18-2018, 07:40 PM
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2017 f150 towing 6700 lb wildwood 27rkss, tow/haul mode responds faster to inclines, activates engine braking on downhill braking situations and holds gear steady until the load is stabilized after a climb. It will shift into 6th after things level off - give it time.
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05-18-2018, 07:42 PM
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Yes, when towing with my 2017 F-150 5.0L SuperCrew. And also Yes on our Ford motor home chassis as well. The motor home goes in to Tow / Haul as soon as I pull out of the storage slot due to it's weight.
Ford has had a factory rep at the last two Goshen Rally's we've attended and he always tells folks to use Tow / Haul during his seminar. According to him, and my own limited observations, there is only about a half of a MPG loss using Tow / Haul.
Using Tow / Haul when descending a long grade makes controlling your speed much easier and keeps you off the brakes. The extra control I get when using Tow / Haul makes any potential MPG loss well worth it to me.
On level roads I still see 6th gear in use so the current version of Tow / Haul does not lock out 6th gear. It does changes the upshift points in the transmission, provides for engine braking, and some other drive train software tweaks based on what I've read in the Owners Manual and from the seminars.
Tow / Haul mode is the way to go when towing or heavily loaded.
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05-18-2018, 07:45 PM
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i have nothing but hills around me for about 25 miles haven't taken new tt very far yet so its always in tow/haul going for a long trip this fall. getting a second knee replacement next week so i will be laid up for a few months.
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05-18-2018, 07:53 PM
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We've got a 2004 Escalade, same as Suburban. With the tow button pushed, does it also shift into high gear when not challenged?
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05-18-2018, 07:54 PM
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I've finished trips to Texas and Florida already this year. When in flat areas (think central Ohio), I've used ECO mode. In hilly areas, I generally run in Tow/Haul. I've got the 10 speed trans, seems like I'm usually in 8 or 9th. On the flats it will get into 10th in both Eco and Tow/Haul.
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05-18-2018, 08:48 PM
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My 16 ecoboost for stays in 6th on the highway until I hit a hill when tow haul is engaged. This is with a 9klbs trailer
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05-18-2018, 09:17 PM
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Tow mode when hauling and always lock out 6th gear when towing. 2013 Ecoboost.
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05-18-2018, 09:40 PM
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Always when towing. Love the shift pattern and engine braking.
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05-18-2018, 09:54 PM
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I use tow haul the whole time, except on flat freeways.
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05-18-2018, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evereddie
We've got a 2004 Escalade, same as Suburban. With the tow button pushed, does it also shift into high gear when not challenged?
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My 2010 Silverado on tow/haul will shift to whatever gear it deems appropriate for conditions...even high gear.
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05-18-2018, 10:24 PM
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Forgot to push my on way to Abilene last weekend it was 103 outside lots of wind didn’t want to watch horrible mpg so watched gauges stayed in mid 190 range first 150 miles when I noticed it wasn’t in tow mode pushed the button by time I finished next 75 miles temp was 93 outside trans was 201 go figure
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05-19-2018, 07:35 AM
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Always when towing, unless a very light load. Tranny will stay in a lower gear longer if needed for power, and on downhills, the tranny will downshift earlier to use engine braking to help you.
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05-22-2018, 11:53 PM
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auto engine stop/start
I just bought a 2018 F-150, 3.5 Ecoboost, supercab, 4x4. As you probably know, the truck has a feature that shuts off the engine when you come to a stop, and restarts the engine when you take your foot off the brake pedal.
I grew up believing it best to keep starts/stops to a minimum. When the engine stops, the oil pressure drops, and the "oil wedge" that forms between lubricated parts is lost. When starting the engine, the moving parts rub against each other until the oil wedge is re-established. I was always told that most of your engine wear occurs in that small amount of time it takes to establish the oil wedge.
So, this automatic stop/start feature makes me think it could contribute to premature engine wear. Has anyone heard of any studies on the issue? Anyone have an opinion? Inquiring minds wanna know.
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