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Old 03-13-2014, 04:57 PM   #11
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By brother had a 2001 Dakota with the 4.7/4spd - he towed around 5k lbs for a few years before trading to an f-150.
He did need to beef up the rear suspension (something like - Timbren Suspension Kits - 2001 Dodge Dakota - TruckSpring.com ) ,LT load range C tires & add a tranny cooler- the OEM was not sufficient for his needs -- the max tow for his 5800 GVW version was around 6000lbs if I recall.

If you haven't already done so, a flushed cooling system, fresh tranny & diff fluids would be a good idea as you it looks like you will be towing close to the max for the truck. You may find that a fresh set of shocks, LT tires and helper springs or air bags may also be in order.

I believe with judicious packing you will be well within the trucks specs with the trailer

Take your time and
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:05 PM   #12
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thank you!!!!

I plan on all the things you have listed. I recently put a new radiator in / water pump / and clutch fan. At 70xxx miles do you recommend I replace the shocks? For sure I will be getting the air bags for the truck.
I just checked my owners manual and it says for my truck the extended cab 4 x 4 that the maximum tongue weight is 800 lbs. Sounds like a lot but I shouldn't be any where near that.
thanks again for all your help and encouragement. I NEEDED THAT !
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:18 PM   #13
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Even without towing I would replace the shocks around 50K - see MONROE SHOCKS & STRUTS :: e-Catalog for some options
With regards to your receiver their should be a sticker that states the max. I believe the OEM was 500/5000.
Just a reminder the WDH setup at the dealer will not match what you need when loaded for camping so be sure to understand how to adjust the setup at home.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:53 AM   #14
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Door tag on the truck says GVW 5,620 lbs. Also have factory decoder for vi # and it states heavy duty front and rear shocks / front and rear stabilizer bars. I pick the trailer up tomorrow and the dealer is to install a load equalizing anti sway hitch. Now does this sound any better or do I need to not purchase this beautiful 21 SS trailer. I promise to pack lightly and my wife promises as well. Hurry with your replies............Rick
none of that stuff matters as much as the 3.55 rear end ratio.

since haven't posted enough info on your truck, like which model?(SLT, SXT and so on),i'll repeat what i said in an earlier post, READ the Dodge Towing Guide.
Dodge Towing Guide - By Vehicle
the Guide only goes back to 2002 but a 2002 SXT Club Cab with the 3.55 rear end, has a max towing capacity of only 3750lbs.

so NO, DON'T tow a 21SS with the Dakota if it's spec'd like the one i posted above.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:43 AM   #15
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Gosh Dan all that I haven't posted about my truck is that it is an SLT model. The tag on the door truly says 5,680 lbs GVW. The owners manual that came with truck says maximum tongue weight of 800 lbs. It's 5:25 AM and I pick the trailer up at 9:AM . After I check everything out I'll probably be on the road by 11:ish. I will be traveling to a near by State Park about 40 miles from here for a test camp of 2 nights. Some dual highway some 2 lane with average Missouri terraine (sp?). Anyways some hills and some straight flat stretches. The info above concerning 3.55 gears , heavy duty shocks , anti sway bars front and rear , etc are all from the vi# build sheet from Dodge. Woops did I mention 4.7 v8 45RFE transmission auto 4 speed? Also has the heavy duty rear brakes. Isn't the dry weight for the 21 SS at around 4,300 lbs? It seems to me that I might be ok if we stay light on our packing of the trailer and the truck. That said I still desire your input but I believe I am going ahead with purchase. If you are correct I'll be stuck and having to purchase a bigger truck. Bummer huh?!! Times running out, Rick
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I had a 2006 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab with the 3.55 axle and big v8 motor. SLT package. Hooked up my 233s Roo and had a tough time adjusting the weight distribution. Towed around the town and knew I was going to have trouble. All the research I did had me going over the rated weight capacity once gear was loaded.

Got a good trade in and bought a Nissan Armada. What a difference in towing. Had no problem on the highway!
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Sounds good and I have a brother who recently retired from a Nissan dealership. Perhaps I too may need to make the switch. Rick
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Sounds good and I have a brother who recently retired from a Nissan dealership. Perhaps I too may need to make the switch. Rick
A good idea.............that's a lot of trailer for a 5600 lb. GVWR verhicle.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:41 AM   #19
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Some specs:
2001 Dodge Dakota V-8 Specs | eHow
4.7-liter, produces 230 horsepower at 4,800 rpm and 295 foot-lbs. of torque at 3,200 rpm.
The club cab model can tow up to 6,200 lbs. with four-wheel-drive while the rear-wheel-drive club cab can tow up to 6,500 lbs
The club cab models have a payload rating of 1,750 lbs. with four-wheel drive and 2,000 with two-wheel drive
The club cab models have a 131.1-inch wheelbase
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IMHO lock out 4th expect to run the engine around the 3k mark for RPM as noted make sure the WDH is set, this and having your brake controller set properly will make a big difference to your towing experience.

Came across this with regards to gears:

"It has to do with the ring gear (larger and being driven) and the pinion
(small and driver of the ring gear). So the pinion turns 3.55 times to
one turn of the ring gear for a 3.55 gear ratio and 3.73 times to one
turn for the 3.73 ratio and 4.1 times for the 4.1 ratio and so on.

Then for discussions stake, use 100 ft/lbs of torque on the drive shaft,
which turns the pinion gear, which then drives the ring gear (both
inside the diff pumpkin).

With a 3.55 gear ratio, that 100 ft/lbs become 355 ft/lbs of torque and
with a 3.73 gear ratio, that then becomes 373 ft/lbs and with a 4.1 gear
ratio that then becomes 410 ft/lbs and so on

Moving the TV and the trailer takes power. The faster you wish to
accelerate, the more power needed. The faster you wish to go the more
power is needed.

The transmission also has gears and ratios that go along with it. So
there is torque multiplication there too. It is between the engine and
differential, so it's ratios factor the engine torque, which then is
factored by the differential ratio.

A 3.55 vs 3.73 is just 0.18 difference and is small to most setups"
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I still think it is doable. Not an optimal setup. I think the 3.55 is your enemy. If I could have my motor in a Dakota, or the new 3.0 V6, I would take that any day over towing with my Liberty, just to have a little more tow vehicle.

Just for reference, I have 3.73 gears, 335 ft*lbs or torque at 2000 RPM. My unit weighs about 4400lbs. I climb decent grades, foot to the floor, at around 60MPH, about 2700 RPMs.

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