From truck to SUV need some help

[frisbyh]

Another thought. Before you start loading the SUV, you should check your combined vehicle weight rating (CVWR). I don't know what kind of trailer you are towing but if the weight of the SUV with full tank of gas and all your passengers, plus the fully loaded weight of the trailer is close to the CVWR, you may not be able to load firewood and other heavy stuff in the SUV.

[dsjohns71]

Question... Why can't you just put the sewer hose in another tote? Put the lid on and put inside the trailer IF it won't go inside the rear bumper

[Triguy]

Originally Posted by frisbyh

Another thought. Before you start loading the SUV, you should check your combined vehicle weight rating (CVWR). I don't know what kind of trailer you are towing but if the weight of the SUV with full tank of gas and all your passengers, plus the fully loaded weight of the trailer is close to the CVWR, you may not be able to load firewood and other heavy stuff in the SUV.

That's what I was thinking is going to be one of the biggest changes going to the SUV.

The payload of even the most tow-worthy SUVs is generally a limiter and, when towing a 33' trailer with a GVWR of 9,600lbs, that hitch weight is going to take up an awful lot of payload (~1,200).

A three seat SUV implies a bigger family so watch your weights! As an example, the new Suburban or Yukon (OP said a suburban-like) max payload at 1,600-1,700lbs or so (and this is good for an SUV. My Sequoia is hundreds less than that) would leave 400-500lbs for all passengers, pets, cargo, etc in the truck. This gets eaten up fast so I would really try not to carry more cargo than you have to in the SUV

I'd lose the idea of hauling a lot of firewood in the SUV. Maybe haul it in a container in the trailer if that's your thing or buy it at the CG or at a private seller near the CG.

As for the sewer hose, the bumper has always worked well for me.

[tjm]

As mentioned, your payload is going to be less with an SUV. Rubber maid totes can solve both of your other problems. I use a tote for the sewer line and just air it out when I get home so it doesn't get funky.


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[Computer Nerd]

With our previous TT I towed with a Tahoe and used totes for both the firewood and water and sewer hoses. I was able to keep my dump station sewer hose inside my rear TT bumper. The fancier one I used at full hookup sites I stored in a tote inside my TT storage compartment


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[B and B]

[QUOTE=Computer Nerd;865711]With our previous TT I towed with a Tahoe and used totes for both the firewood and water and sewer hoses. I was able to keep my dump station sewer hose inside my rear TT bumper. The fancier one I used at full hookup sites I stored in a tote inside my TT storage compartment


I do the same thing, if i Loos a $10 slinky likely it was in need of replacement.

[Herk7769]

Like Triguy said; passengers are payload.

They count against what you can carry and what you can tow.

SUVs typically come with the wrong kind of tires for towing (P instead of LT).
Not many go this route (truck -> SUV)for these reasons.

You may not be able to put anything in the SUV except the passengers.

[tjm]

Originally Posted by Herk7769

SUVs typically come with the wrong kind of tires for towing (P instead of LT)..

To be fair most 1/2 ton pickups come from the factory with p rated tires.


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[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by tjm

To be fair most 1/2 ton pickups come from the factory with p rated tires.


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Exactly; most 1/2 tons are sold to street cowboys who will never tow anything.

If you plan on towing right out of the box you will most likely need to special order a 1/2 ton "properly equipped" as the brochure likes to say; but dealers never order "lot vehicles" that way.

[YoungKopernik]

I love my 2004 Yukon XL Denali(1500/6.0L) but I wanted a 2500 Yukon XL(6.0), my sales guy sold me on the Denali and I have been so happy(kids love it too). As for wood I box it and put it in the door way, last thing in first thing out. Sewer hose goes in the bumper carrier. I have 146,000ml, most of those towing.

I did think I hated carrying wood so bought a gas fire pit, ends up I dislike the gas fire more, its just not the same.

There are better towing options with a van, my sister loves her’s.

[Kungfu01]

Thanks everybody for the responses lots of good information. So we went camping this weekend and lo and behold the sewer line fits in the bumper. Problem mostly solved. I have an elbow that 90s into the sewer line at the campsite. On the 90 is a attachment made to screw i to three different size sewer inlets. That attachment doesn't fit in the bumper. I may just put it in the firewood tote.

I also remembered buying one of those racks that mount into your hitch receiver to carry coolers and such. I used to have an SUV when I was in my late teens and early 20s. I checked at my parents and sure enough it was still there after nearly 20 years In their garage. Luckily my dad is a pack rat. Now I just need a bumper attachment for my trailer and away we will go.

If anybody is curious I am pretty certain my new vehicle will be a cadillac escalade esv or a yukon Denali XL with the 6.0 liter or if I can find a deal on a newer one, one with the 400 horse 6.2l . Payload likely won't be an issue.

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by Kungfu01

I also remembered buying one of those racks that mount into your hitch receiver to carry coolers and such. I used to have an SUV when I was in my late teens and early 20s. I checked at my parents and sure enough it was still there after nearly 20 years In their garage. Luckily my dad is a pack rat. Now I just need a bumper attachment for my trailer and away we will go.

If anybody is curious I am pretty certain my new vehicle will be a cadillac escalade esv or a yukon Denali XL with the 6.0 liter or if I can find a deal on a newer one, one with the 400 horse 6.2l . Payload likely won't be an issue.

Remaining payload goes down with heavier engines; not up. GVWR of the tow vehicle is typically frame based and payload is at maximum with the "standard everything" version of the vehicle.

Every option adds to the curb weight which is then subtracted from GVWR to find available payload remaining.

You are thinking of "tow rating" which is only based on powertrain (engine, trans, final gear ratio rear end, and axle rating).

You can "pull" more trailer than you can "carry" (tongue or pin weight) in most cases.

As to your "find" I recommend leaving it where it is. Today's light weight camper bumpers are not stressed for any load located more than 6 INCHES from the bumper centerline. It would really stink to be pulled over by the State Police because your bumper and carrier broke off killing some folks behind you on the highway.

[Kungfu01]

I knew that post was coming. after I replied I realized I made it sound like the bigger the engine the bigger the payload.

I know the difference but thanks for looking out.

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by Kungfu01

I knew that post was coming. after I replied I realized I made it sound like the bigger the engine the bigger the payload.

I know the difference but thanks for looking out.

Most replies are to help the poster, but I have found I still get "thanks" from posts made years ago (still shocks me when it happens).

Some issues are eternal it seems.

[vinmaker]

The closest route to safely carrying the cooler/bike rack on the back is to have a hitch receiver bolted or welded to the frame. Do not even consider using the bumper at all. Even using the frame can be risky on light weight trailers. You need to make sure the frame is strong enough for the stress of what you are placing back there.

[bpa098]

My last truck (03 Burb) and my current truck (07 Yukon XL) both had the 5.3. I wanted the 6 this time but just couldn't find a good deal on one. They both haul my light hybrid fine although would like some more power. Before joining this site i really never knew/learned or worried about weight that much but have never had a problem. Both trucks would be loaded with 5-7 people (mostly small kids), back end loaded with wood and other gear. My burb desperately needed the WDH as she squatted bad even with a light utility trailer. My newer yukon barely drops when i hook up, actually could use a new lower hitch as it sits a little high.

[Big Red and 30WR]

Originally Posted by dustman_stx

I agree. Maybe 2 regular rows with a third row similar to an extended cab seat? And a 5.5' bed.

Sound good but should have a 8 foot box.

[dustman_stx]

Originally Posted by Big Red and 30WR

Sound good but should have a 8 foot box.

You'd probably be looking at close to a 200"WB. Not very feasible for any type of every day use. I think with a 5.5' bed you could come close to fitting it on the 172" WB the SCrew with 8' bed uses.

[mxdad]

We have an 08 Escalade with the 6.2 and have a 26RR (5500# with water), and it tows it well with a WD hitch and sway control. I have towed almost 7K before with it, and it does just fine. Payload on these SUV's are less than their truck counterparts due to the coil spring rear suspension, but the mechanicals (6.2 , 6L80E, and G80 rear) are the same as the VortecMax trucks that tow 11K.