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05-28-2013, 08:35 AM
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Steve Jackson
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FYI-Ford Engine Issues
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05-28-2013, 08:36 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Here comes the excuses. .......
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05-28-2013, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
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Toyota has a similar problem with the 5.7 in the tundra when the truck will go into limp mode because of moisture getting in the air intake pump. But it's not happening during acceleration only does it at start up. Seems to happen more in wetter climates. As long as ford mans up and fixes the problem.
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05-28-2013, 09:32 AM
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Camper Less Camping
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Uh Oh...sounds like 400K EcoBooger trucks need a little fine tuning ,)
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05-28-2013, 10:27 PM
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Oklahoma Proud
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I reported on this problem a few months ago. My uncle (who works as a ford tech) told me at Christmas that the intercoolers would build up condisation and apon hard exceleration would suck the condinsation up into the intake and cause misfires and then imobilization. At that time he said that there was not a fix for this issue, I may see him tomarrow at a funeral, and will see if they figured anything out.
- he also stated that these trucks shouldnt even try to be used like a superduty like a lot of people seem to try to use them for. They are A HALF TON!!!
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05-29-2013, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member
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What do turbo-diesel trucks do to prevent this issue?
Doesn't seems like a towing issue to me. Not worth the bashing it will probably generate here. 
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05-29-2013, 01:10 PM
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Camper Less Camping
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebrakeman
What do turbo-diesel trucks do to prevent this issue?
Doesn't seems like a towing issue to me. Not worth the bashing it will probably generate here. |
Great question...ya think the Ford diesel engineers would have cross referenced with the Ecoboost engineers during design/testing to catch this problem!?
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05-29-2013, 01:54 PM
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Oklahoma Proud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
Great question...ya think the Ford diesel engineers would have cross referenced with the Ecoboost engineers during design/testing to catch this problem!?
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I'm thinkin that they are 2 different beasts- apples and oranges and they both grow on trees, akin to both types of engines having turbos- otherwise worlds apart.
- whens the last time you actually saw water come out of a diesels tailpipe? On gas powered vehicles its all the time
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05-29-2013, 02:29 PM
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Senior Member
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Actually the 6.4 l diesel have the same concern,You would have though that Ford would have used that info when designing where the intercooler outlet was put(at the bottom of the intercooler where the moisture settles when it is condensed).
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05-29-2013, 02:51 PM
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Not an engineer, but I bet the huge difference in compression ratios has a lot to do with it. Plus the fact that gas relies on a spark to ignite versus a diesel relying on the high compression. I think the report I read said there had been a whopping 96 reports. Would seem to be very rare if that is the case.
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05-29-2013, 03:19 PM
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Actually, spraying a mixture of water and methanol directly into the intake is a popular performance mod for diesels. Boosts hp and lowers egts..no joke. Most use windshield washer fluid.
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05-29-2013, 03:19 PM
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96 reports to the NHSTB or what ever it is. I'm sure there are many more reported to dealers. A quick google search reveals it is a known problem to many.
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05-29-2013, 03:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M109Rrider
Actually, spraying a mixture of water and methanol directly into the intake is a popular performance mod for diesels. Boosts hp and lowers egts..no joke. Most use windshield washer fluid.
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Very true. Never done, but have heard of it.
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05-29-2013, 03:41 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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On the same lines I have meth injection on my four stroke turbo snowmobile.
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05-29-2013, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member
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Maybe it was all by design but Ford forgot to hook up the Meth tank...lol
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05-29-2013, 03:49 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M109Rrider
Maybe it was all by design but Ford forgot to hook up the Meth tank...lol
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Lol !
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05-29-2013, 04:31 PM
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Camper Less Camping
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustman_stx
Not an engineer, but I bet the huge difference in compression ratios has a lot to do with it. Plus the fact that gas relies on a spark to ignite versus a diesel relying on the high compression. I think the report I read said there had been a whopping 96 reports. Would seem to be very rare if that is the case.
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Yea, 96 "reported" cases is no big deal....unless you're one of the 96 and it happened at the worst possible situation!
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05-29-2013, 05:32 PM
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Member
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Location: Charlotte area
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I had the issue on my 2012. They replaced the intercooler with a newer design and flashed the computer with a new program. That was in February and I haven't had any issues since (fingers crossed). During that time I haven't driven it any different than before and towed also.
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05-29-2013, 05:55 PM
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05-29-2013, 06:12 PM
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Senior Member
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most intercooler temps are around the 350 degree after compression, I had a snow water meth system installed but sold it because I did not use it enough, but wish I would of kept it, it lowered my EGT about 200 degrees and the intercooler temps around 150 (shot before the cooler) it had 3 stages, I never did run meth in it just water. first shot at 6psi, second at 12, and all 3 nozzles on at 18psi
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