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11-27-2013, 11:15 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Also lets keep in mind a BIG factor here is rear end gear ratio!
If the op's titan has low 3's it'll make the mpg while towing way worse than one in the upper 3's
3.50 gear ratio or better for towing that kind of load.
With a 3.73 being the best all around. Imo of course.
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11-28-2013, 11:48 AM
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Well since I can now see that my issue is not nearly as bad as I thought, i guess I will put a few extra $$$ into upping the horse and torque to help out. rather only have 1 (camper) payment a month if i can rather than 2 (truck) if I don't have to. Might turn camping into only being able to park it in the back yard.
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11-28-2013, 12:02 PM
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I budget for 8 MPG and if I get higher I'm happy. I have averaged 9 over 9,000 miles with a low of 7.25 and a high of 10.6. Recently averaged 8.9 over 3,000 miles from Indiana to Phoenix including a 10 week tour of Colorado and Utah. The mountains didn't affect my mileage at all as what I lost going up was made up for going down.
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11-29-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Also lets keep in mind a BIG factor here is rear end gear ratio!
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That was particularly true back in the day of 3-speed slushboxes. Now with the advent of 6 and even 8 speed trannies, the rear axle ratio is not near as important. With that many gears, you can get the best of both worlds.
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11-30-2013, 05:35 PM
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speed definitely makes a difference. Probably safe to say you loose about 1mpg for each 5mph over 60. Lots of air to push.
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11-30-2013, 07:40 PM
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We got 9.93 calculated and the truck readout said 10.0. Closest it's ever been. We have the 5.3L with a 3.23 Rear End.
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11-30-2013, 08:31 PM
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My experience has been that towing a tt cuts my gas mileage in half. My current Tundra gets 7.7-7.8 mpg at 60 mph pulling a 32' tt. Terrain of course makes a difference.
My prev. was a 4 Runner pulling a 26' and the results were similar. Could only go half the distance on a tank.
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11-30-2013, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by garycarson
My experience has been that towing a tt cuts my gas mileage in half. My current Tundra gets 7.7-7.8 mpg at 60 mph pulling a 32' tt. Terrain of course makes a difference.
My prev. was a 4 Runner pulling a 26' and the results were similar. Could only go half the distance on a tank.
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a 32ft trailer with a Tundra? WOW . And it gets up to 60 . Sorry, couldn't resist. That just seems like a lot. I have a 30ft trailer and a 1 ton diesel. If I didn't have mirrors, I wouldn't even know it was back there
OK, all kidding aside. You are very correct that towing a tt cuts mileage in half with most any gas truck. With my 2014 1 ton Chevy Duramax, I get 20MPG empty, about 11-12 towing.
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11-30-2013, 09:01 PM
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5.7 DC Tundra 4.30 dif supercharged. Pulling 9k+ 5th wheel @ 60 mph I average 11mpg hand calculated. hwy travel with a empty bed I can get 20mpg @ 65mph. The faster I drive the MPG goes in the toilet real quick.
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11-30-2013, 09:34 PM
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Thanks Pressley. We Tundra guys have to stick together.
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11-30-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by roman253
Ok so my question is for those folks with a TT that is pulled by a 1/2 ton truck. I recently went on a trip and maintained a 65MPH almost the whole way there (cruise control) and noticed my gas mileage was pretty bad (7.7MPG compared to 14MPG w/o trailer). I know my MPG was never great but has anyone else had similar dips in their MPG?
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We get 8 to 9 towing at 60 to 65 and 15 to 19 not towing. 06 Chevy Silverado 1/2 ton crew cab 6.0 vortec with 4.1 rear end towing 2012 Flagstaff 30WFKSS. For us its just part of the experience.
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11-30-2013, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rlocicero
I still cannot understand the issue here. We spend $30,000 to $40,000 for a truck and another #20,000 or $30,000 for a tt or 5er. Then we put 6000 lbs on the back of a 5000 lb vehicle and wonder why the fuel economy drops by 1/2... It's not rocket science, Gas mileage is going to suck! I, for one, do not care. I love camping and this is just part of it.
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X2. My feelings exactly. Thanks for saving me a bunch of typing.
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11-30-2013, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by presley01
5.7 DC Tundra 4.30 dif supercharged. Pulling 9k+ 5th wheel @ 60 mph I average 11mpg hand calculated. hwy travel with a empty bed I can get 20mpg @ 65mph. The faster I drive the MPG goes in the toilet real quick.
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Hmm...was considering the supercharger kit ourselves with our new 28ftr. Already got blessing from DW- just think she'd burn the hydes of the tires at every light!
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12-01-2013, 08:10 AM
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more horsepower does not increase your towing capacity, more truck does. I'd rather have too much truck and have lots more control of my load.
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12-01-2013, 09:02 AM
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No it doesn't. But sometimes it adds a bigger smile to my face when doing the daily grind drive!
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12-01-2013, 09:12 AM
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No it doesn't. But sometimes it adds a bigger smile to my face when doing the daily grind drive!
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that is does . I love beating the crap out of import cars with loud mufflers with my 1 ton diesel truck
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12-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by roman253
Well since I can now see that my issue is not nearly as bad as I thought, i guess I will put a few extra $$$ into upping the horse and torque to help out. rather only have 1 (camper) payment a month if i can rather than 2 (truck) if I don't have to. Might turn camping into only being able to park it in the back yard.
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Unless you are on the road towing that TT an awful lot, I would not take on a new TV(Tow Vehicle) payment. Fuel costs when camping would not add up to offset the new TV payment I wouldn't think. As OC has said in other threads if your TV is rated to handle what you are towing safely, keep your TV and suck it up on the gas mileage when towing. The new truck (and a payment) isn't going to improve your mileage that much. Now that I have preached about what I think is sensible I have to admit 'if something bugs me enough I will spend the money even when DW says "You don't need that". Your TV is 9 years old so maybe it's time for a new one (that's the excuse I would use with my DW, of course I also know she knows what I'm up to).
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12-01-2013, 11:05 AM
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I'm in the I can't drive 55 club. That's that. LOL
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Originally Posted by HSVBamaBob
*Chuckles* Welcome to the gulp club :rollback:
I am thinking you can push 10MPG if you back off to 55-60 - just run at cruise at the lowest RPS possible
If I want to ROLL in my rig - I can do 65-70 (right at the tire rating) and I get 8MPG. Drop to 60-65 and it goes to 10MPG
drop to 55-60 and it goes to 12ish
At 55 I feel like folks on bicycles are passing me though - OTOH, DW and I have great conversations and in a couple years when we retire, whatthehellelse do we have to do? :rollback:
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