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Old 09-23-2014, 11:14 AM   #211
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You can remove it and tune it, but beware that if you attempt to trade or sell that vehicle, the original emissions system must be intact. I know it's a $25,000 fine in Texas to sell a vehicle without the emissions system installed. You might run into issues in places that have emissions testing as well. The way you drive a diesel has a lot to do with how dependable the new ones are from what I understand. Lot's of short drives not reaching full operating temp is very hard on them from what I read. Those guys running VERY high miles like you mention are probably doing lots of long hauls and running the vast majority of the time at full operating temp. Also, I would venture that most people will run the factory filters and not consider them "crappy". If you have to do modifications or run high dollar filters or any other caveat to reach the mileage you speak of, the average consumer will never get there.
Actually on a duramax the filter is crappy for the factory style filter @ $40.00 + a filter.
A much much better filter and conversion kit can be had at around $100.00 and the "better" filter can be had for around $15.00

My "factory" duramax filter type could only withstand about 5000 miles or less of service before being changed or plugged.

The "new" filter will go to 10,000 miles in service life.

Installed the change over kit this last spring and still running the same filter.
I'd have changed the oem type twice by now.


So in short it costs about $100.00 to be able to run a filter half the cost of the oem filter and it lasts twice as long.

The math looks to be way better on the conversion.
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:57 AM   #212
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If the truck is out of emissions warranty then no issues with emissions equipment with dealers and no testing in Florida.

Regardless, diesel has been cleaner then gassers for years as far as the dangerous gasses emitted from the tailpipe. The recent crap is for soot reduction. This is crazy because soot just falls to the ground.

You are spot on with the short drives being an issue with the DPF, ect. Pulling under load is a good thing.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:01 PM   #213
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Actually on a duramax the filter is crappy for the factory style filter @ $40.00 + a filter.
A much much better filter and conversion kit can be had at around $100.00 and the "better" filter can be had for around $15.00

My "factory" duramax filter type could only withstand about 5000 miles or less of service before being changed or plugged.

The "new" filter will go to 10,000 miles in service life.

Installed the change over kit this last spring and still running the same filter.
I'd have changed the oem type twice by now.


So in short it costs about $100.00 to be able to run a filter half the cost of the oem filter and it lasts twice as long.

The math looks to be way better on the conversion.

Yep. On the Dodge's we ran the Baldwin filters in the stock location and they were 3 micron and $16 off Amazon.

I still need to do the conversion on my new truck.

Which one did you do? Link?
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:47 PM   #214
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I still say that when you start throwing specialized procedures and modifications around, you aren't REALLY talking about the type of longevity the average owner can get from a vehicle. Therein lies another shortfall of the new diesels- there are several things the average owner won't research and understand to be able to get the kind of mileage you guys are talking about. For the typical consumer that will have service done at the dealer (at best) and will replace the DPF when it clogs, and isn't hauling cross country and is therefore making lots of short runs, etc., I still say there are lots of expenses that the older diesels didn't have. And lots of things to have problems with, such as the emissions system and the fuel system. A typical gas vehicle has NONE of those issues to worry about and can still reach a high mileage on the odometer. Once again, I say that diesel is a great option as long as you are realistic about the expenses and are aware of the POTENTIAL high repair costs. I personally wouldn't buy a new one and EXPECT to get 300K from it with only oil and filter changes, though some people do.
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I have decided that the F150 I have is just not going to cut it with the trailer I have. Have an opportunity to get a pretty good deal on some 2015 350 Super Duty trucks coming available in a couple of weeks with very low mileage on them. Some are 6.7 diesel and some are 6.2 gas. Are there any here who have the 6.2 gas in a 350 Super Duty and how are the real numbers for mileage and power. I realize the diesel is going to have a lot more power however the price different is about $10,000 and the cost to service, repair will be less as well.
Did you make a decision here and I missed it? I will tell you we just made a ~900 mile trip towing our Windjammer 3008W with the Tundra and averaged around 7.5 mpg. That meant I needed to find gas every 150 miles max. Personally I am watching for a deal on a diesel.
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Did you make a decision here and I missed it? I will tell you we just made a ~900 mile trip towing our Windjammer 3008W with the Tundra and averaged around 7.5 mpg. That meant I needed to find gas every 150 miles max. Personally I am watching for a deal on a diesel.
Then you can join the "rattle and smoke" association of oil burners and go 300 miles between fuel stops
Personally that works out just about right for the needed humanity breaks we've come to require.
Got my '07 used and haven't regretted it for one minute having the extra $20k still in my bank account.
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Did you make a decision here and I missed it? I will tell you we just made a ~900 mile trip towing our Windjammer 3008W with the Tundra and averaged around 7.5 mpg. That meant I needed to find gas every 150 miles max. Personally I am watching for a deal on a diesel.
Or you can get an Ecoboost, save around 10K and go 250 between fuel stops. Seriously, though, if you pull a lot, the diesel is the way to go. However, if you plan to keep your 3008 for a while and don't full time or tow constantly, the EB would be a good choice.
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I sure don't miss stopping at every other exit for fuel diesel is way to go what ever brand you buy. I bought what some call a goat but 11 years now and only oil filters and fluid changes and tires so far. Oh and a water pump which can be changed in a few minutes on the cummings. On a V8 chevy is a half day joib if you are lucky been there also.
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Then you can join the "rattle and smoke" association of oil burners and go 300 miles between fuel stops
Personally that works out just about right for the needed humanity breaks we've come to require.
Got my '07 used and haven't regretted it for one minute having the extra $20k still in my bank account.
When i looked at your TV at first thought it was mine then I saw the badge on the side not much difference in the 2003 - 2007 body. I did buy new but 11 years and counting, plans are for ever to keep but if i have to get another will not be first time user. To many on the market now for that.
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Found mine with only 29k miles on it. Old boy (previous owner) drove by brail though. Small dings/scratches on all four corners. Other than that it's in good shape and hope to keep it for 11+ years as well!
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