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Old 09-11-2014, 08:00 PM   #41
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My daddy (sitting in his Cadillac) once said "If you got to ask the gas mileage, then you can't afford the vehicle son" ...
I think that old saying should be put to rest. Some of the most fuel efficient vehicles are also the most costly. I always ask the price of a product before I buy it and fuel efficiency is not always about how much I can save my pocket book but how much I can save the environment for my children and their children.
And that topic should also be considered when debating gas versus diesel.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:08 PM   #42
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I think that old saying should be put to rest. Some of the most fuel efficient vehicles are also the most costly. I always ask the price of a product before I buy it and fuel efficiency is not always about how much I can save my pocket book but how much I can save the environment for my children and their children.
And that topic should also be considered when debating gas versus diesel.
Well, gassers sure smell better than even the new oil burners and they are quieter.
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Well, gassers sure smell better than even the new oil burners and they are quieter.

You know what they say.."everyone likes the smell of their own....."
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:18 PM   #44
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Can't smell the new oil burners, as so much crap in the exh, as for the noise they are so quiet with out a load attached and even less noise then a gas eng pulling the same weight up any large hill

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Old 09-11-2014, 08:20 PM   #45
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I'm from Missouri! Really.
ok, you ask, you shall receive

gas
35000 miles / 7 mpg = 5000 gallons x 3.43 per gallon = $17,150 in fuel.

diesel
35,000 miles / 12 mpg = 2916 gallons x 3.63 per gallon = $10,587 in fuel.

That is a difference of $6563.
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:25 PM   #47
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I have come up with similiar numbers with what I know and talking to locals here as I am a heavy equipment tech.
what do you work on? I work at a Case IH dealer. All our new equipment has Iveco diesels. Previous models were Cummins. The Ivecos are great engines and very fuel efficient. Unreal power and super quiet in the cab.
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:32 PM   #48
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Damn Canonman, your photos are fantastic! Makes me want to drive up to Lake Louise right now and try,in vain, to recreate the shot!

Oh wait, we've had over a foot of snow this week, they may have put away the canoes!

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ok, you ask, you shall receive

gas
35000 miles / 7 mpg = 5000 gallons x 3.43 per gallon = $17,150 in fuel.

diesel
35,000 miles / 12 mpg = 2916 gallons x 3.63 per gallon = $10,587 in fuel.

That is a difference of $6563.
Well, here in Concord, gas is $3.13 and diesel is $3.82 and I have a gasser that gets 10.0-10.5 pulling a 5er, so using 10.25 mpg ave. it would cost me $10,688 vs your $10,587 for a difference of $101 so, with a $10,000 difference in diesel vs gas truck, it would only have to be driven 10,000/101=99x35,000=3,465,346 miles to pay for it. Where do I sign up for this deal?
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Well, here in Concord, gas is $3.13 and diesel is $3.82 and I have a gasser that gets 10.0-10.5 pulling a 5er, so using 10.25 mpg ave. it would cost me $10,688 vs your $10,587 for a difference of $101 so, with a $10,000 difference in diesel vs gas truck, it would only have to be driven 10,000/101=99x35,000=3,465,346 miles to pay for it. Where do I sign up for this deal?
I went with todays fuel prices where I live and the fuel economy of my current and previous vehicles so these are "real world" numbers for me. And diesels aren't $10,000 more, just over $7000 more, so I believe I proved the point you asked me to prove. Cost difference basically recovered in 35,000 miles. I understand diesel isn't for everyone, especially you, with the extreme hatred you express on here for them
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