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Old 05-29-2016, 01:09 PM   #1
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Gas vs Diesel Engine

Ok I know this is been debated a ton but want some fresh opinions. Took our first long trip this weekend and got killed on gas. I have a 2013 Ford F150 with the 5.0 V8 and we got about 8 miles to the gallon. Pulls our trailer fine however does struggle a little on hills. Stopped at a weight station and we were at 12,140 total with all our gear, the family and a full tank of gas which is still under the max capacity of the truck. My DW said we should consider a diesel and I almost pulled into the first dealership I could find before she changed her mind.

So my question is would the diesel give me better gas mileage? I know the towing would be better but the mileage definitely needs to increase for me to justify the purchase. And the next quest would be Ford, Chevy or Dodge? Would love to hear the pros and/or cons from your experience since all I have ever owned are F150s. Thanks in advance and let the debates begin.
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:17 PM   #2
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Ok I know this is been debated a ton but want some fresh opinions. Took our first long trip this weekend and got killed on gas. I have a 2013 Ford F150 with the 5.0 V8 and we got about 8 miles to the gallon. Pulls our trailer fine however does struggle a little on hills. Stopped at a weight station and we were at 12,140 total with all our gear, the family and a full tank of gas which is still under the max capacity of the truck. My DW said we should consider a diesel and I almost pulled into the first dealership I could find before she changed her mind.

So my question is would the diesel give me better gas mileage? I know the towing would be better but the mileage definitely needs to increase for me to justify the purchase. And the next quest would be Ford, Chevy or Dodge? Would love to hear the pros and/or cons from your experience since all I have ever owned are F150s. Thanks in advance and let the debates begin.
12,500lbs sounds a bit high to me for an F-150.....tho you didn't mention what you were towing

The diesel will always get you better mileage in the hilly country as the torque curve will be better. After I got burned on my first TV (RAM 1500 Hemi), I said never again and bought a RAM 3500 Diesel Dually. I've never looked back.....
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:23 PM   #3
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My 10 yr old diesel will average 12 - 12.5 mpg towing roughly 17-18k
I've seen as low as 11 in the mountains and as high as 13 going to the beach.
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:36 PM   #4
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Max towing capacity is to me a sales gimmicks. What you need to use us the yellow payload sticker to find how much "trailer" you can haul. You will most likely be out of payload long before you hit the max trailer that the car company posts. (using the appropriate % tongue to trailer weight ratios)

I get 13 to 14 towing a 8000 or so lbs trailer with diesel. Got 9 with the same trailer in gas. Same fuel economy between the both when not towing.



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I did a three hour trip a few weeks ago with my 5er, pulled by my 3500 cummins.

Last year the same trip with my F350 V10.

Almost double the fuel economy with the cummins.


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Old 05-29-2016, 02:00 PM   #6
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12,500lbs sounds a bit high to me for an F-150.....tho you didn't mention what you were towing
So, that is only a 6,000 trailer. The 13 F150 Screw is a hair over 6,000 lbs alone. Yes, you would get a little better MPG with a diesel. You didn't say how often you tow or if you use the truck for other things. An Ecoboost wouldn't be struggling on those hills, but the 5.0 doesn't pull quite as well. If it makes you feel better, get a 250. If not, you are fine pulling that trailer just take your time.
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Our 2007 Duramax 2500HD avgs 11mph pulling 11.5k 5er. If we have a bad headwind all day I've seen it drop to 8.5 and with a tailwind 13mph.

Empty we get 21 hiway and 16 city.

My 1/2 ton gas trucks pulling 8k or less avg 8mph with the range from 5 to 9. And they were always screaming up hills or against a headwind.

Will your fuel costs greatly improve? Not really. But your towing experience will increase for the better 1000 times.

What brand? Whichever one you like, I don't see any real difference between the big 3 as far as towing. I like the ride and cabin comforts of the chevy plus they are usually cheaper. Dodge still rides too rough for us. We don't like the cabin interiors of the Fords plus they are usually the most costly.

We have been looking at new diesel trucks (probably a 1 ton this time) but so far haven't find a deal that makes me want to give up our old reliable 2007.

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Old 05-29-2016, 04:04 PM   #8
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Fuel economy should be better but the improvement will never offset the cost of a diesel. Saving fuel is not a reason why one buys a diesel. One buys it for the torque and impressive towing performance. I've yet to find a hill here in Colorado where my F350 struggles.
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My 2016 F250 6.7 gets 17-18 city rural and 19 hwy. Add the 5er and 11-12 towing 11,200# 5er. My F150 was getting 19-20 city rural and 9.3 pulling a 7000# TT. Fuel savings will not pay for that $8400 diesel option but you get it back at trade in.
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I have had a 2012 3500 Cummins, 2008 duramax, 2012 ford f350 in that order. Did not have the Dodge long enough to comment on durability, but I was most impressed with the duramax engine and fuel economy while the Ford to me is definitely better at handling our trailer(13k lbs 5r) but my Chevy was 2500 short box and the Ford is 350 long box.

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