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Old 07-14-2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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Gcwr?

I have a 2005 Nissan Titan and a 2012 sandstorm 203 slc. I use a 1200/12000lb Equalizer hitch. According to Nissan the trucks gwr can be 6522lb and the the max trailer weight can be 9300lb. Which is 15822lbs,, but Nissan says Gcwr of 14822. So how do they come up that when you add the two and its 1000lbs more? And also on the website it show curb weight of 5259 for the model I have and a payload of 1842 which is 7101 gwr not 6522 and then add a 9300 towing capacity and that's 16401. So which is it 14822, 15822, or 16401 Gcwr.

Honestly I don't think I will ever go over 15822 but I was close to 14822. The heaviest my hauler ever was and probably will be is 6800. And I will admit my truck was over the gwr by about 700lbs going off the 6522 gwr. I will need to work on that. But can someone help me try to understand all this.
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:36 AM   #2
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My truck has a trailer town capacity of 9300 lbs, and a GVWR of 9300 lbs, adding up to 16,500 lbs. My GCWR is 15,000.

If you are going to have a trailer that weights close to the maximum of your tow rating, then you must keep the weight in the truck minimized to stay under the GCWR. If I were to pull a trailer of 9300 lbs, I would need to keep my truck under 5700 lbs.....impossible for me as the truck weighs close to 6000 lbs. with me in the seat and a few personal items and add-ons installed.

Welcome to the world of mis-leading advertising for 1/2 ton trucks.

BTW, many heavy duty trucks also have this problem, but with bigger weights, of course.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:26 PM   #3
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If you want a full workup, we will need additional information about your truck and trailer.

Year, Make, model, bed length
Engine, trans, rear end ratio
Heavy Duty Towing package or after market receiver?
GVWR of the truck with your options (if you know it)

Year, make and model of your camper
GVWR of the camper

It will take a while but you will get a good idea on whether you are where you want to be, or overloaded. Actual weights using the 3 ticket method would help you as well.

Truck axle weights loaded for camping without the camper

Truck axles and camper axles loading for camping with WD bars disconnected

Truck axles and camper axles loading for camping with WD bars connected
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #4
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Truck-2005 Nissan Titan 4x4 6.5 foot bed. With big tow package.
Gvwr says 6522lbs or 7104lbs. Pay load 1800 lbs. max trailer weight -9300lbs
3.36 rear end which Nissan says similar to a 4.10 with a 4 speed tranny mine has a 5 speed.
Engine is 5.6L rated at 305hp and 379 lbft. I have a cold air intake, exhaust and a bully dog programmer.

Toy hauler- 2012 sandstorm 203slc
Dry weight is 5600lbs
Gvwr 7661lbs

Hope this will help
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:06 PM   #5
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Truck-2005 Nissan Titan 4x4 6.5 foot bed. With big tow package.
Gvwr says 6522lbs or 7104lbs.
The GVWR should be listed on a sticker on the drivers door.
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The GVWR should be listed on a sticker on the drivers door.
Ok I will look.
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This is from the 2005 Titan Towing Guide:

So need to clarify model trim as well as bed type.
Still researching specs on the truck itself.

Also makes a difference if you have the Flex Fuel engine or not apparently.
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Herk, I seen that but when the numbers add up it doesnt make sense.
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Herk, I seen that but when the numbers add up it doesnt make sense.
What do you mean? What model do you have?

Do you have the XE, LE (with Utility Bed), SE with standard bed, or SE with Utility Bed.

Seems you should be able to find that info.

I also need the engine type since the GVWR on the truck changes if you have the Flex engine (down, as it must be heavier).
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Are you confused about max gross weight and max combined weight?
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