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Old 01-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #1
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GM's answer to the ECO Boost

Just curious, if anyone knows if GM will have an answer to Ford's 3.5 Eco Boost, that has been a huge hit with truck owners?

Any possibilities of doing a twin turbo to a V-8 gasser?
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:40 AM   #2
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I haven't heard anything yet, but the competition is fierce so it is most likely. I recently ordered an ecoboost, but am a gm guy at heart. I was comparing the eco max tow to the gm max tow which has the 6.2. In all fairness, I test drove a couple of each truck and I think the 6.2 gm is actually quite a bit better on fuel than the eco (look out here it comes). I Think from these tests and from talking to a few people that have them(6.2 gm), that thay are even better than the 5.3. And they go. Being from SK, we don't have huge hills but we got wind. I think the bigger displacement does it. You have to admit, Ford was never known for good gas mileage, even when they say such and such a vehicle is.

With that said, I ordered an ECo, hoping that I get decent mileage, have the power I need. But I ordered it because I have teenagers and the cab was a little bigger and that was important. I didn't want a dodge mega.

I think gm will do something though, even though they have a good powertrain, because they have to build what is selling. Eco's are selling.

That doesn't answer your question, but I enjoyed replying. Cheers
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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I'm pretty much a Ford man except my last two trucks have been Chevs. Presently have a 6.0, and have never averaged 15 mpg on a trip yet even without a load. Had a 454 before that, and the 6.0 may be about 1-2 mpg better both city and hiway. Wayne
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:27 PM   #4
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Ecoboost is just marketing. It's just a small engine with a turbo. And When its all said and done, if you put a turbo in a small engine expecting it to be a big engine and drive it like a big engine your just wasting money and gas.
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Ecoboost is just marketing. It's just a small engine with a turbo. And When its all said and done, if you put a turbo in a small engine expecting it to be a big engine and drive it like a big engine your just wasting money and gas.
Seems you totally missed the point of the Ecoboost. V8 power when needed, V6 mileage when power isn't needed. Seems pretty simple. Not only that most of it's torque is available far lower in RPM's than any of the new gen V8's from any mfg. All that at a premium far less than the cost of entry into the world of oil burners.
Now when the big 3 decide to make oil burner 1/2 tons then the game will change again.
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It will take GM awhile to tear down an Ecoboost, examine it, and try to duplicate it. By then, Ford will have moved on.
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Ecoboost is just marketing. It's just a small engine with a turbo. And When its all said and done, if you put a turbo in a small engine expecting it to be a big engine and drive it like a big engine your just wasting money and gas.
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My question is the longevity of running such a small engine pushing all that horsepower, I think the life of the engine is going to be poor if someone pulls very much at all.

Ford has put out a lot of engines that ended with poor reputations
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It will take GM awhile to tear down an Ecoboost, examine it, and try to duplicate it. By then, Ford will have moved on.
Why would they need to tear it down and examine it? I'm pretty sure GM engineers can and have already thought of something similar. GM has always had better motors. Before the Economy went to crap they were already working on a 4.5L Diesel for 1/2ton trucks. Supposedly there are rumors that the project will back on track. I think you can even youtube a video on it.
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Ford has put out a lot of engines that ended with poor reputations
And they are?
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