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Old 06-07-2013, 01:02 PM   #11
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Like most, I think the diesel is worth it in the long run. My lifetime MPG (all 3400 miles on the truck) from OnStar reports 13 MPG. 80% of that has been towing either the bumper pull or now 5th wheel, otherwise the truck doesn't get driven much, hence the low miles for a 2011. I would not go back from a diesel.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:39 PM   #12
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If you are serious about buying a new diesel I would suggest doing it sooner than later. I can't speak for the others as I am a true cummins fan but Dodge in 2013 is putting the diesel exhaust fluid on ALL diesel trucks. Not a huge deal but I can guarantee you will have a higher re-sale on the the 2012 with out it and than a 2013 with it. Plus it will be a lot less head ache.

As far as if it is worth it or not I traded in my 2010 Hemi Crew Cab 1500 that I bought brand new on a 2006 Ram 2500 quad cab with the cummins and 150K on the ticker and haven't once regretted it! The gas engine did a great job but the cummins absolutely blows it out of the water! I just pulled the same camper I had with the hemi averaging 8mpg and the cummins averaged 16 into CO and 19 on the way home (down hill ) I didn't buy the diesel for fuel mileage, although it sure is a plus! I bought it for the comfort of driving! The heavier the truck the more control of the camper and I definitely feel much more in control of the rig with the cummins in front!

A 1/2 or 3/4 gasser will definitely do the trick but the diesel will be much more in control of the whole situation and for me safety is #1!
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #13
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IMO,

If you tow a lot (30 days or more) and drive a long way when you do it; you will love the diesel.

If you don't; you won't.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:10 PM   #14
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I am going to respectively disagree with Herk on that... I drive roughly a mile each way to work with my diesel daily driver and LOVE IT!!! I don't get the best mileage out of it, nor would I get the best out of a gasser either. Only reason I do drive instead of ride a bike or such is that I am on a fire department and need to leave in a hurry on occasion.

Short trips aren't the best for a diesel but you wont hurt them if you do get them to operating temps on occasion.

I personally change oil twice a year regardless of whether it is due or not! I do so in the spring and then the fall if not a 3rd time in between. I aim for 7500 - 10000 miles between changes. I also change trans fluid and filter at the beginning of the spring camping season. Lastly the fuel filter with the trans fluid... Maintenance does cost more than with a gasser but not that much... plus the truck should last you a lifetime if well maintained.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:19 PM   #15
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One thing about the f-150 is it takes 8 qts of oil, so I am paying $110- every 5K miles for a synthetic oil change... So, is a diesel more expensive than that?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:21 PM   #16
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I change oil myself for less than that. I use a mopar filter as well as 10 qts of synthetic oil for my 5.9 cummins. Roughly $75 in material for me to change, but I can go 10K miles before changing again. I normally don't as I tend to be a little more anal with my truck maintenance than the average guy...
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:22 PM   #17
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One thing about the f-150 is it takes 8 qts of oil, so I am paying $110- every 5K miles for a synthetic oil change... So, is a diesel more expensive than that?
What?
$5.99 x 8 qts plus a $6.00 filter ?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:24 PM   #18
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A 3.0 turbo-diesel in a truck...? I was looking forward to something like this but a 3.0? It would seem more practical for truck use to have a little bigger engine, like a 4.5 to 5.0. Buying this would probably not really solve my problem... but I'll definitely be waiting to see where this will go.

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Old 06-07-2013, 02:27 PM   #19
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I don't do my own oil changes any more, but I'll be starting that again, soon... regardless of whether I trade trucks or not. Yep, $110- is a bit too steep...
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:27 PM   #20
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A 3.0 turbo-diesel in a truck...? I was looking forward to something like this but a 3.0? It would seem more practical for truck use to have a little bigger engine, like a 4.5 to 5.0. Buying this would probably not really solve my problem... but I'll definitely be waiting to see where this will go.

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They are not going after heavy duty truck numbers, but trying to build a diesel that competes with most other v8 gas engines. I think they have hit it on the nose.
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