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Old 06-09-2013, 11:39 AM   #51
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That has to be one of the worst apples to oranges comparisons I have ever read. The GM diesels in the 80s were horrible. They made little power, got worse mpg and broke down constantly. They were a step down from even a V6 engine of the day. They did fail for economic reasons of the application, they failed because they were horrible engines.

Ford had more than made the economic case for a more efficient engine in a light duty truck with the ecoboost. If Dodge fails with their light duty diesel it because they screwed it up. The market is there.
And GM found out you can't take a gas engine block and make a diesel out of it.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:12 PM   #52
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That has to be one of the worst apples to oranges comparisons I have ever read. The GM diesels in the 80s were horrible. They made little power, got worse mpg and broke down constantly. They were a step down from even a V6 engine of the day. They did fail for economic reasons of the application, they failed because they were horrible engines.

Ford had more than made the economic case for a more efficient engine in a light duty truck with the ecoboost. If Dodge fails with their light duty diesel it because they screwed it up. The market is there.
Wow...I guess I have nothing to offer hereI can't imagine Dodge, in a bid to be competitive in "that market", repeating the same cost cutting techniques that GM did. (tongue in cheek) But hey...I give them props for trying and hope that they are successful. I just have a feeling that at 3.89 a gallon on average, the normal buyer won't be inclined to buy such an item for a daily driver that a 1/2 ton pickup normally is. Didn't mean to offend the diesel die harders
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:58 PM   #53
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The comparison is not really a good one, and no offense meant, because GM tried to do conversions from gasoline engines. Dodge is actually going to use a tried and true diesel. I am still not convinced that 3.0 will have what the market wants, other than mileage. I have been asking about this very thing for some time but never heard anything promising until now. A 3.0 turbo-diesel probably will not have the acceleration needed and I doubt the towing capacity needed for most half-ton fans, unless that 8-speed tranny makes a load of difference. I do believe the market for a 32 mpg half-ton is there but it will need to have some get up and sickum or it won't sell. Just my nickel's worth (inflation strikes!)
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:29 PM   #54
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I went from a E450 v10 motor home towing a wrangler-best mpg was about 8 mpg here in the Sierra's--to an f350 6.7 turbo diesel to pull my new Flagstaff 5th wheel- I get 14.7 going over Donner Pass (8,000 ft elevation) at 60 mph and 15+ mpg around town--and finally around 22 mpg cruising the freeway at 65 mph. Gotta agree about never towing with a gasser again!

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Old 06-09-2013, 09:47 PM   #55
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gotta love that diesel power. i'll never to back to gasoline. my 7.3L PSD is all that i need.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:50 PM   #56
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My son has the 7.3 and my daughter has the 6.4 -they both love them...but both keep looking at my new F350 King Ranch :-)
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:57 PM   #57
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I upgraded to a 2013 f350 dually 6.7 diesel form a 2500hd 6.0 gas truck and its night and day difference. The diesel does not work hard at all on the same hills the gas struggled to climb the fuel mileage is much better with the diesel. Towing a Rv should not be a chore trying to drive a truck that is under powered I will never go back to a gas engine.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:19 PM   #58
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I would seriously look at a 1 ton instead of a 3/4 ton, in most cases they are the exact same truck with only the suspension for the difference in capacity. Value wise a 1 ton will get you more trade in if/when you want to sell it. As well, well you decide to upgrade to a 5th you won't be sorry for the extra capacity.

I have the Ford 350 6.7 SW, a couple of big selling points for me were the mileage, the undermount 5th from factory (no rails in the bed), and the factory installed jake brake (engine brake).

I also purchased the 5 year maintenance package, everything is covered from oil, brakes, windshield wipers, all fluids, DEF, etc, etc...for only $1750 (I think they screwed up when I bought it!) At 15 litres of synthetic oil here in Canada you are looking at a $200+ oil change , to the package pays for itself pretty fast.
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...The engine in these are not Cummins - even if I was interested I wouldn't be one of the first to buy one- too many things that will probably need to be worked out in the first couple years...
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The years after the new EPA standards for diesel trucks were terrible. Everybody had problems and some went on a lot longer than they should. It would just be a choice as to whether you want to help debug the new combo on thr truck or not.

Too bad it won't be a Cummins. That would be a killer package. My guess is that Dodge wants diesel package that is much more affordable.

The other thing to consider is whether you get 4WD or not. If all you do is stay in trailer parks, 4WD is nice but not a necessity. If you do any boondocking 4WD is absolutely a necessity. Even then, you sometimes have only one shot to get your rig moving.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:37 AM   #60
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I love this thread! I drive a gasser! I wish I had the money to trade it in today!
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