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Old 09-27-2012, 06:36 AM   #21
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:21 AM   #22
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Just remember that a standard "hand" grease gun is capable of putting 5-10,000 PSI pressure out. If there is any resistance when trying to put grease into the zerks, stop! and find out what the resistance is. I've seen many many blown seals and greasy brake linings from these types of axles. Bottom line is if you inspect your brakes yearly like you are suppose to then you are to replace the seal anyway. If the repacking of the bearings is done correctly then you shouldn't need any grease until next repack. I wish they would use oil bath hubs and be done with it.

BTW, don't forget to check the stainless wear sleeve that the seal rides on. I replace mine every time. Some axles don't have these sleeves.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:41 AM   #23
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You are lucky it is only a $100 repair. My bearing let go while on a busy highway. Did not know and it got so hot that it burnt the brakes pads and cracked the the hubs. By the time I got the trailer out of the repair shop the total cast was almost $3000.
Wow. You definitley got ripped off, in my opinion. You could have put 2 complete brand new axles with new wheels, tires- the whole works- for way less than $3000.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:45 AM   #24
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Wow. You definitley got ripped off, in my opinion. You could have put 2 complete brand new axles with new wheels, tires- the whole works- for way less than $3000.

I just had a single Dexter (6,000 lb) axle installed along with hubs/rims/tires. (including spare) for $2,500.00. Mind you I did go with load range "e" tires.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #25
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I just had a single Dexter (6,000 lb) axle installed along with hubs/rims/tires. (including spare) for $2,500.00. Mind you I did go with load range "e" tires.
Unless these are some type of special axle that I'm unaware of, I'd say you got ripped off too. I see dexter 6000 pound axles at around mid $500's as seen here:

Dexter 6000 LB Axle

Even if you opt for a fancy aluminum wheel, you should be able to get wheels and tires for $600 per axle- maybe $700. That puts you at around $1250 total per axle for all new hardware. I'd hate to know I paid someone $1250 to install 1 axle. As per my original statement, I'd think that at a total cost of $2500 for the parts, $500 would be a pretty reasonable price to jack up a trailer, remove 16 bolts, cut 4 wires, slide the old axles out, the new ones in, and reinstall. This would be a grand total of $3000 for 2 complete new axles installed with new wheels and tires. Maybe the work is being done at an RV dealer and you are being WAY overcharged for what is really a pretty basic job and shouldn't really take real long to do????
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:02 PM   #26
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Unless these are some type of special axle that I'm unaware of, I'd say you got ripped off too. I see dexter 6000 pound axles at around mid $500's as seen here:

Dexter 6000 LB Axle

Even if you opt for a fancy aluminum wheel, you should be able to get wheels and tires for $600 per axle- maybe $700. That puts you at around $1250 total per axle for all new hardware. I'd hate to know I paid someone $1250 to install 1 axle. As per my original statement, I'd think that at a total cost of $2500 for the parts, $500 would be a pretty reasonable price to jack up a trailer, remove 16 bolts, cut 4 wires, slide the old axles out, the new ones in, and reinstall. This would be a grand total of $3000 for 2 complete new axles installed with new wheels and tires. Maybe the work is being done at an RV dealer and you are being WAY overcharged for what is really a pretty basic job and shouldn't really take real long to do????
The axle I got is "torsion" double the price you suggest as per this link

Dexter Torsion Axles

Mine with "EZ lube" is $1,000.00 alone. Add the hubs, electric brakes, rims & tires & spare and 5 hours shop labor as the Dexter was not a straight out swap ( a little frame mod & welding required). It is not hard to find $2500.00 reasonable. Tires on rims alone "e" rated were $600.00.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:20 PM   #27
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A big 10/4 on the minimum grease from the factory. I once read a thread on the amount of grease the hubs took when greasing the easy way, and, yes it's true. I used 2/3 of a tube on each hub and two rolls of paper towels before I was through with all four hubs. I could not believe the black mud that was coming out.
That black "mud" is just the factory grease. I don't think you had to put quite that much grease in!
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Unless these are some type of special axle that I'm unaware of, I'd say you got ripped off too. I see dexter 6000 pound axles at around mid $500's as seen here:

Dexter 6000 LB Axle

Even if you opt for a fancy aluminum wheel, you should be able to get wheels and tires for $600 per axle- maybe $700. That puts you at around $1250 total per axle for all new hardware. I'd hate to know I paid someone $1250 to install 1 axle. As per my original statement, I'd think that at a total cost of $2500 for the parts, $500 would be a pretty reasonable price to jack up a trailer, remove 16 bolts, cut 4 wires, slide the old axles out, the new ones in, and reinstall. This would be a grand total of $3000 for 2 complete new axles installed with new wheels and tires. Maybe the work is being done at an RV dealer and you are being WAY overcharged for what is really a pretty basic job and shouldn't really take real long to do????

Dustman...here is the breakdown.

Dexter 6000 lb torsion axle - $900.00 (factoring deliver to Canada)
2 Alloy Rims (15 inch) $246.00
http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/wheels/alloy-wheels/product/0348346P/trailer-wheels-style-136/
1 Steel Rim (15 inch) $89.00
3 tires (15 inch) - $498.00
http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/light-truck-tires/product/0087013P/goodyear-marathon-trailer-tire/0087016/
900 + 246 + 89 + 498 = 1733 (with applicable taxes where I am ~ 2,000).
My labor was approx. $500.00 for 5 hours which is understandable shop rate (labor was 80.00/hr + applicable taxes where I am.) I was there for part of the work and it was far from a straight swap out the Dexter product needed to be fitted with a new bracket and custom welded to the trailer).
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:42 PM   #29
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That black "mud" is just the factory grease. I don't think you had to put quite that much grease in!
I agree, but after reading the thread, I checked mine for the first time. Bought the TT the end of June. There was very little grease in the hubs. It took what I considered form past experience a lot of grease.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:53 PM   #30
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Dustman...here is the breakdown.

Dexter 6000 lb torsion axle - $900.00 (factoring deliver to Canada)
2 Alloy Rims (15 inch) $246.00
http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/wheels/alloy-wheels/product/0348346P/trailer-wheels-style-136/
1 Steel Rim (15 inch) $89.00
3 tires (15 inch) - $498.00
http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tires/light-truck-tires/product/0087013P/goodyear-marathon-trailer-tire/0087016/
900 + 246 + 89 + 498 = 1733 (with applicable taxes where I am ~ 2,000).
My labor was approx. $500.00 for 5 hours which is understandable shop rate (labor was 80.00/hr + applicable taxes where I am.) I was there for part of the work and it was far from a straight swap out the Dexter product needed to be fitted with a new bracket and custom welded to the trailer).
If you'll look back at my original post, you'll notice that I did include a disclaimer about a more expensive axle- it hadn't been mentioned before what type of axle was being discussed. If you'll go back and read my post, I also didn't include an extra wheel and tire- you may have mentioned this originally and I didn't catch it. I stand by my original statement that replacing 2 drums, hubs, bearings and some brakes at a cost of $3000 is outrageous. Maybe some other work was required that wasn't originally mentioned(or maye I missed something)??? Also, if you are talking $2500 Canadian, I think we are on 2 different pages anyway as far as cost goes.
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