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Old 06-19-2012, 09:21 PM   #11
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Ok...made perfect a sense now....im going to weight my truck tommorow with fuel to see where i actually sit at....but since i tow dry.....i dont anticipate more than 12,900 in transit....plus my approx 10k truck with kingpin i should be good....thank you for the break down
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:23 PM   #12
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Saw another one on here towing with an F250 but he put air bags and an F350 springs in his rear.......says he has no problems at all.....so maybe i will add another leaf and bags to support just in case
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:09 PM   #13
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:00 PM   #14
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My $.02. My gross limit is 24,500. My rig weight is just under 17,000. 17,000 divided by 24,500 is .693, in other words I'm at 70% of my allowable weight.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:43 PM   #15
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My $.02. My gross limit is 24,500. My rig weight is just under 17,000. 17,000 divided by 24,500 is .693, in other words I'm at 70% of my allowable weight.
You are at 70% of your combined weight rating. That figure has to do with pulling and stopping your combination with your engine, trans, rear and brake size.

It really does not tell you if your truck or camper is overloaded (individually) (ie exceeds their individual GVWRs).

If you add the GVWRs of your truck and camper it will be more than your GCWR.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:51 PM   #16
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pulling and stopping your combination with your engine, trans, rear and brake size.
Herc,

It's a Duramax, just about like yours only a little more ass in the pulling department. And it doesn't smell like a diesel, which I like.

BTW we are booked in Myrtle week of Labor Day, I would like to chew you ears off about flying, if you could make it.

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Old 06-23-2012, 08:03 PM   #17
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Herc,

It's a Duramax, just about like yours only a little more ass in the pulling department. And it doesn't smell like a diesel, which I like.

BTW we are booked in Myrtle week of Labor Day, I would like to chew you ears off about flying, if you could make it.

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Mike, I assume since we are talking about "pulling" you mean like a donkey. I was looking at the 2011 and 2012 GMC 2500HD towing specs and I have to say you are right. OMG can they pull.

The major reason for the 23% boost in combined weight has nothing to do with engine, trans, OR gears. It is the smart diesel exhaust brake. Using the exhaust brake alone the test driver was able to slow and stop (with a brake tap) a 20,000 pound 5th wheel "test blivet." (steel sled)
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If you have ever gone down I-77 VA into NC, Fancy Gap. Going down set the cruise at 70 and it goes 70, never touch the brakes. Going north, my first trip up the hill I nailed it, I lifted at 75 and it went by 80. Now I set the cruise at 70 and hold it in 4th gear, 2600 rpms smooth as silk, see you at the top.

We went to Massachusetts last summer, passed this old bread truck proudly owned by current day hippies. On the back it said 'I burn veggie". It looked like they were burning ping pong balls, and here I'm driving about the cleanest burning thing on the road....
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My TV is a 2012 Ford F350 Crew Cab SRW 6.7L Powerstroke with FX4 Package.
GVWR 11,500 lbs
Cargo not to exceed 3460 lbs.
So my estimated curb weight is roughly 8000 lbs.

My new rig is a 2013 Sierra 365SAQ
GVWR of 14k lbs
tongue weight of 2100 lbs
dry weight of 12k lbs.

truck can tow 15,700 lbs with a properly fitted fifth wheel hitch.
GCWR is 23,500 lbs.
Most (not all!) tow vehicle provide the max tow rating only when the truck is empty with only a 150 lb driver. So:
Empty truck = GCVWR (23500) - Max tow rating (15700) = 7800 lbs. This is pretty close to your 8,000 lbs. So the numbers sound right.

Looking at your numbers, you are:
7800 (empty truck) + 12,000 (dry camper) = 19,800 lbs.
This does not include any passengers, or any cargo in either vehicle.
Also, is that 12k the dry weight (no options) or the factory shipped weight (including options). If options are not included, then you should expect to be right at 14k when loaded (be careful). If the shipped weight, you have room.

23500 - 19800 = 3700 lbs available for people and stuff (and camper options if not included in that "dry" weight.
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Thanks...12,282 is the shipping weight. 11,876 is dry weight. A bit of better numbers for the truck scaled today:

GVW: 8380 with full fuel and passengers (no hitch).....8580 with hitch we'll say.
GVWR: 11,500
RGAWR: 7000
RGAW: 3360 (w/o hitch)

RV: 12,282 shipping
GVWR: 14,082
Kingpin dry: 2100
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