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01-28-2013, 09:35 AM
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Have you weighed your TT loaded to camp?
And if so, how much 'cargo' weight have you got on board?
I'm curious to see what is a rough average of bedding/clothing/dishes/bath/food/chairs and such that we carry with us.
Some TT have under 1000lb of cargo capacity and others a ton or more.
It would perhaps also be helpful when looking at new TT or TVs to have an idea that 'with a family of 4 for weekends' the cargo is 900lbs and for a full time couple it's 1900lb (or whatever the numbers work out to be)
I don't have scales remotely close to me so I've not had the joy of getting weighed yet - it's on the list for this year even if it's 100 miles out of the way.
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01-28-2013, 09:46 AM
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Site Team
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I have weighed ours a few times and we usually run between 400 to 700 lbs of cargo. I carry about 100 lbs of cast iron and cooking equip, so if you don't carry that you could subtract it. This is for the 2 of us, or 2 plus 2 gk's for a long weekend. That's also not counting what's in the truck bed (bikes, extra propane tank, EZ-up, etc.).
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01-28-2013, 10:07 AM
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I have to admit I have no idea how to find a place to weigh - plus since I have no idea how any of that works, I'm afraid that we'll weigh and then be told we're illegally heavy or something and get a ticket.
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01-28-2013, 11:30 AM
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
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My unloaded Vehicle weight on the camper is 7219 pounds.
My Truck loaded for camping with family on board is 7,760 pounds
Mu truck and camper together weighs 16,720 pounds.
Subtracting the 7,760 pounds of truck from the 16,720 pounds of togetherness
The camper weighs 8,960 pounds
Subtract unloaded weight of 7219 means I had 1,741 pounds of "my stuff" on board for that trip (empty holding tanks and about 5 gallons of fresh water).
I carry less now and need to re-weigh, but my guess is it still weighs about 1500 pounds.
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01-28-2013, 11:40 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I weighed ours on the first trip out for a 4 day weekend and had 900 lbs of 'stuff'. I know that since then, we've added a little to that and would also carry a little more for a 2 week trip.
Dave
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01-28-2013, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadTrip
I have to admit I have no idea how to find a place to weigh - plus since I have no idea how any of that works, I'm afraid that we'll weigh and then be told we're illegally heavy or something and get a ticket.
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CAT scales will not give you a violations ticket....just a ticket with your weights.
Call your local landfill or quarry to see if they will let you go across their scales. My local quarry has weighed my combo a bunch or times.
Also, some trucking firms have scales, or grain storage facilities.
I usually travel with the trailer at 5500-5600 lbs. I weighed the trailer coming back from the dealer, and it weighed 4760 lbs, so i have about 800 lbs of gear, food, clothes, packed into the trailer....plus I like to travel with about 1/4 tank of water.
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01-28-2013, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member
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steer=4440
drive=5160
trailer axle=9840
gross weight=19440
truck weight 6900-19440=12540
12540 - 11590 trailer weight (empty but with stuff from factory batteries/2 propane 30lb)
== 950lbs of stuff
replaced the master bed with a queen pillow top , 2 40 inch televisions, 1 32inch television, chairs, ground covers 3 ea, extra ladder, and my tool box (50lbs) ..plus the normal stuff everyone else carries
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01-28-2013, 12:34 PM
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I added roughly 1300 pounds of "stuff" to ours after it got home. I'm amazed we haul around that much stuff just to be weekenders, but it keeps DW happy so that's what we do
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01-28-2013, 01:14 PM
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Graduate Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnguy
CAT scales will not give you a violations ticket....just a ticket with your weights.
Call your local landfill or quarry to see if they will let you go across their scales. My local quarry has weighed my combo a bunch or times.
Also, some trucking firms have scales, or grain storage facilities.
I usually travel with the trailer at 5500-5600 lbs. I weighed the trailer coming back from the dealer, and it weighed 4760 lbs, so i have about 800 lbs of gear, food, clothes, packed into the trailer....plus I like to travel with about 1/4 tank of water.
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thanks!
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01-28-2013, 01:17 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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AVERAGE personal stowage is 1000 lbs !
not including water.
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01-28-2013, 01:26 PM
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Perhaps this might be a consideration for us all?
Obtaining proper weight, overall length, and height and width is absolutely important. Unfortunately, many of us cannot remember any of these statistics at a moment's notice.
For Example: Suppose you are driving along at 60 mph and the bridge sign has a height limit of 13.4’. Or, suppose you are in the metric system and the bridge height is 4.08m. Will you be clear? Now, you have only seconds to respond.
Our solution is a tape writer. We’ve put all of our statistics in both the “Imperial and Metric” system above our speedometer. By the way, our weights are listed as steer, drive, axle, gross.
It’s cheap insurance and less damaging.
Mike
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01-28-2013, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler2955
Perhaps this might be a consideration for us all?
Obtaining proper weight, overall length, and height and width is absolutely important. Unfortunately, many of us cannot remember any of these statistics at a moment's notice.
For Example: Suppose you are driving along at 60 mph and the bridge sign has a height limit of 13.4’. Or, suppose you are in the metric system and the bridge height is 4.08m. Will you be clear? Now, you have only seconds to respond.
Our solution is a tape writer. We’ve put all of our statistics in both the “Imperial and Metric” system above our speedometer. By the way, our weights are listed as steer, drive, axle, gross.
It’s cheap insurance and less damaging.
Mike
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Brilliant!
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- one Hotwife, and two boys under 2(with one on the way!)
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01-28-2013, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member
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Lou - you're full time and carry a complete home depot and sears along with you in tools/bits/pieces!
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2011 Grey Wolf 28BH
2013 Chevy K1500 Crew w/ Reese StraitLine Dual Cam
Nights camped 2011: 11 2012: 18 2013: 12 2014: 12 2015: 13 2016: 56 2017: 8+
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01-28-2013, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadTrip
I have to admit I have no idea how to find a place to weigh - plus since I have no idea how any of that works, I'm afraid that we'll weigh and then be told we're illegally heavy or something and get a ticket.
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Why you care isn't because of a ticket, that's very unlikley from what I've been told.
BUT - have an accident and that's another story. If you're over the weight you'll get a ticket, perhaps one for reckless driving (a PA fave to hand out - comes with automatic 6 month driving suspension). If you're illegal on the roads you may find you've given your insurance company an 'out' to not pay. Every policy I know mentions that they won't cover illegal activity or intentional acts. If you don't know you're overloaded I'm not sure they'll say ignorance is acceptable and they'll insure you for such 'negligence'.
Being OW can be a safety issue - it can be the cause of a crash.
It will certainly cost you money indirectly in excess wear and tear on your TV. While I wasn't overweight after 1/2 dozen trips on the used expy we had I spent $2k on a transmission. I'm sure if I'd have never towed a 6klb camper the trans would be working just fine. So the more you haul the shorter the life of the trans, brakes, suspension, etc.
Your numbers may be fine or maybe tell you to move those bikes from the back of the truck to the camper (as in rearrange your load).
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Chris, Wills (16) Evie (13) & Toby our collie (6)
2011 Grey Wolf 28BH
2013 Chevy K1500 Crew w/ Reese StraitLine Dual Cam
Nights camped 2011: 11 2012: 18 2013: 12 2014: 12 2015: 13 2016: 56 2017: 8+
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01-28-2013, 03:34 PM
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Graduate Member
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Location: Columbia, MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prof_fate
Why you care isn't because of a ticket, that's very unlikley from what I've been told.
BUT - have an accident and that's another story. If you're over the weight you'll get a ticket, perhaps one for reckless driving (a PA fave to hand out - comes with automatic 6 month driving suspension). If you're illegal on the roads you may find you've given your insurance company an 'out' to not pay. Every policy I know mentions that they won't cover illegal activity or intentional acts. If you don't know you're overloaded I'm not sure they'll say ignorance is acceptable and they'll insure you for such 'negligence'.
Being OW can be a safety issue - it can be the cause of a crash.
It will certainly cost you money indirectly in excess wear and tear on your TV. While I wasn't overweight after 1/2 dozen trips on the used expy we had I spent $2k on a transmission. I'm sure if I'd have never towed a 6klb camper the trans would be working just fine. So the more you haul the shorter the life of the trans, brakes, suspension, etc.
Your numbers may be fine or maybe tell you to move those bikes from the back of the truck to the camper (as in rearrange your load).
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good point
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01-28-2013, 04:02 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by prof_fate
Lou - you're full time and carry a complete home depot and sears along with you in tools/bits/pieces!
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Certainly not full time - Once thought about it, but I like my toys that don't play well with full timing.
Camping signature days accurate as I can.
Retired is not full timing.
Don't camp near as much as I wish.
Just like being a "Boy Scout."
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